People call Bruno Fernandes a rat but in reality this guy is the biggest one. Absolutely disgusting.

City fans blaming the “Red Cartel” for financial rules is some deflection. Since those rules came in, City have won 7 league titles. Arsenal, Liverpool and United have won 3 between them. Liverpool went 30 years without one, Arsenal went 22, and United haven’t won one since 2013. What exactly has this cartel been protecting? And it’s not as if City were being held back before the rules. From 2009 to 2018, their net transfer spend was around £900m, nearly £400m more than United’s and roughly five times Liverpool’s or Arsenal’s. I understand why Villa and Newcastle fans want rules that give them a better chance to catch up. I think that’s a fair debate. But clubs also need protecting from spending themselves into serious trouble, as Portsmouth showed. And if any owner can spend whatever they like, what stops the richest one turning the league into a procession nobody wants to watch? Look at Bundesliga, and Ligue 1.. do we want to become a farmers league that City win every year? City have dominated with financial rules in place, and now there’s a reported finding that they broke them.... which might explain why they have been able to dominate and not Arsenal, Liverpool, United. Blaming Arsenal, Liverpool and United for wanting those rules enforced is ridiculous. Debate whether the rules should change, sure. But don’t act like the “Red Cartel” is the reason City are in this position... you got found guilty accept it.

The evil red cartel introduced financial regulation in 2013 to protect their position and it led them going from winning 76% of titles to 23% of titles since. What a master plan

The whistleblower is living in witness-protection and the UAE is threatening economic sanctions but yeah Man City is just a “football club” with a kind hearted investor

This right in the middle of their era of cheating. Kicking the ball back to them for no reason, QPR safe from relegation with former Liverpool and City players in the QPR team and celebrating with them after the game ended. We all know what happened here.

A member of the ‘Red Cartel’ whilst City were spending the GDP of a small country

Cool. Force the glazers to pay the debt and sell the club. Talking like as if Utd fans haven’t been fighting against this vs City fans proudly celebrating cheating all these years. You are as transparent as a screen door Mr Dick Keys.

It’s not ok. And we’ve been banging on about it for 2 decades whilst everyone just laughed. But it’s not cheating. It’s not fraud. And it’s not cooking the books, fake sponsors etc. Are you understanding it a bit better now?

Rewatch the Manchester City vs QPR game from 2012 and you’ll see pretty obvious corruption in plain sight. Led by Joey Barton who was too thick to do it with any subtlety.

Senne Lammens vs. Italy: • 6 saves • 9 recoveries • A clean sheet Man of the Match performance. 🧤🇧🇪 nitter.net/TheUnitedWayyy_/status…

Seeing people say United should be punished for having over £1bn in debt and comparing it to the City case is ridiculous. City are accused of breaking financial rules in ways that could have helped them spend more and gain a sporting advantage. United’s debt came from the Glazers borrowing to buy a club that had been debt-free. They then put that debt on United. Fans protested the takeover in 2005 because we knew exactly who would end up paying for it. United now have to spend money servicing debt that could have gone on players, the stadium or training facilities. Where is the sporting advantage in that? The Glazers should never have been allowed to buy the club that way. If you want to argue for tougher rules on leveraged takeovers, I’m with you. But punishing United for being saddled with their owners’ debt would punish the club and fans all over again. City gained a huge sporting advantage from cheating. Man Utd have been held back due to debt that was never ours, it is not the same🤣

⚖️ 𝗘𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗵𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗮𝗻 𝗖𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗽𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘀𝗵𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗯𝗲 𝘀𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗲 Here are the arguments that I expect the PL legal team will make for why the Independent Commission must apply the most severe punishments possible. 1) 𝙋𝙤𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙨 𝙙𝙚𝙙𝙪𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙧𝙚𝙡𝙚𝙜𝙖𝙩𝙚 The typical points deduction baseline for a regular PSR breach is 6 points for the breach and a further point for every £5m over the limit. These are then varied for mitigating and aggravating circumstances. By my calculations, Man City breached PSR by at least £120-140m each year over 2015/16-2017/18. In aggregate, that would mean a baseline of 96 points deducted. But this was not a regular PSR breach either. It was historic, hidden, the platform for all success and future growth and what’s more, they then sought to evade / fight justice for years. So the points deduction should probably be larger than 96. The simple reality is they must go down. Anything less would be egregious (when viewed alongside precedent) and subject to not only appeal, but almost certainly Section X arbitration and judidical review on the basis it was a perverse outcome. 2) 𝙃𝙪𝙜𝙚 𝙛𝙞𝙣𝙖𝙣𝙘𝙞𝙖𝙡 𝙞𝙢𝙥𝙡𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙨, 𝙧𝙚𝙙𝙪𝙘𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙈𝙖𝙣 𝘾𝙞𝙩𝙮’𝙨 𝙛𝙪𝙩𝙪𝙧𝙚 𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙣𝙙𝙞𝙣𝙜 Given precedent of other fines applied by Commissions, the scale of the offences, and the length of time taken from discovery to sanction (mostly due to Man City’s non-cooperation), Man City can expect the largest ever fine in football history. I will do a more detailed thread on this soon, but I suspect a fine of up to £100m (justified on the basis of damage to the PL brand) and compensation claims to the 4 clubs of more than £1bn in total. Normally, fines and compensation claims are not counted when assessing FFP / PSR because to include them would be considered “double punishment”. However, excluding them might be considered unfair in this specific case. Man City smuggled in more than £800m of equity, disguised as sponsor income. In today’s prices, that would be worth billions. They have built an empire on the cheating and still benefit from it to this day. Their valuable squad (which they can sell to raise funds) exists because of it. It’s why their “net spend” isn’t that high. What’s more, valuable long-term commercial deals only exist because of it too. The sanctions must also “make good” the damage that Man City cause but they must also mitigate for any undue sporting advantage they have gained. As such, that massive spending power that they gained through cheating must be restricted to compensate. Including the fines or compensation would not achieve this In the PL now that the rules are SCR-based rather than PSR-based. As such, I suspect the Panel will be asked to achieve this by applying a mark-down to their SCR allowance. Uefa may be asked to include the fines and comp claims in any assessment of their Football Earnings (I doubt they’ll comply). 3) 𝙏𝙞𝙩𝙡𝙚 𝙨𝙩𝙧𝙞𝙥𝙥𝙞𝙣𝙜 Every single major player acquisition from the summer of 2011 onwards can be tied to the illicit funds. Directly or indirectly. These players were absolutely critical to their ill-gotten success. It is impossible to argue that they would have won their titles without them. As such, there is a strong argument for why titles should be stripped. It is also a needed outcome for the purposes of deterrent against future cheating by other parties. And even through they only breaached PSR from 2015/16 onwards (they breached Uefa FFP two years rules earlier), they started getting the benefit of their scheme much earlier than that. Had they not devised it, with the intention to defraud the league, then they likely would not have spent nearly as much as they did on players in Summer 2011 onwards. So there is an argument that everything they won from 2011/12 onwards is tainted (i.e., all of it). That is the argument I would make. All of it must be stripped. The counter-argument is that only titles won from the first PSR breach (in 2015/16) should be stripped by suggesting that sporting advantage did not apply until that year. I feel this argument is weaker but this is subjective. The Panel could go either way. 4) 𝙁𝙤𝙧𝙘𝙚𝙙 𝙨𝙖𝙡𝙚 𝙪𝙣𝙙𝙚𝙧 𝙩𝙝𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙩 𝙤𝙛 𝙚𝙭𝙥𝙪𝙡𝙨𝙞𝙤𝙣 The cheating was on a massive scale. But what’s worse is how it was undertaken. It required a hidden criminal conspiracy on an enormous scale. What’s even worse is when it was discovered, the owner and club execs did everything they could to deny justice. They refused to comply with the investigation, dragging it out for years. They supplied false documentation and committed perjury at CAS, as well as having eminent business leaders do the same. They demonstrated a total disregard for the rules and the league’s integrity. They demonstrated a clear belief that they are above any and all rules. The rule breaches were only discoverable due to an email hack that will likely never be possible again (all malign actors will be more careful now). And they have so much power to falsify records, silence whilstblowers and force individuals to lie. They are an existential threat to the league. You simply cannot allow individuals like that to remain in a competition if you want it to maintain integrity. They pose too great a threat. The Panel cannot expel the club directly but it can recommend that the clubs vote to do so. But I suspect no-one will want to destroy the club. That is unfair to many employees and fans. They would rather just excise the ownership instead. As such, the Panel should recommend that the club be expelled if it is not sold to completely unassociated parties within a year, with a sale likely undertaken on a competitive basis and managed by an independent third party (similar to Chelsea’s).

Quick let’s get in there and make it about United so we can get more clicks….

I’ve said it before, aside from the charges this game was fixed and very suspect. After City scored the equaliser QPR literally gave them the ball straight from kick off which I’ve never seen before. You also have celebrations like this.

Bloody hell

Man City’s favourite place for a drink

Football Leaks claim that a Manchester City executive sent an email following the death of an FFP investigator as follows: "One has fallen, there are six to go." bit.ly/LeaksManCity

Fuck me, that was fast!

Another £91m loan added to #MUFC. When the Glazers took control in 2005, United had £0 debt. Since then their family has extracted roughly £450–£460m in dividends while the club has carried the debt. Let's keep the consistent pressure on Snapdragon and MUTV. #BoycottUnited

To those saying Man City will get a slap on the wrist because the Premier League are scared of losing them, I actually think the opposite. A slap on the wrist would be far more damaging to the Premier League. People would seriously start questioning the integrity of the competition. And I don’t see Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal, the three biggest commercial clubs in the league, just sitting back and accepting it. The backlash from rival clubs and fans would be massive. I think the Premier League has far more to lose by going soft on City than properly punishing them if they’re found guilty.