"Not false at all. I already responded to this. History itself supports these claims. The ones you listed aren't the only ones btw lmfao. U can find support for Jesus not only living but being God both in and out of the bible. U choosing to not believe it isn't a lack of proof lol"...
You are a walking logical fallacy, and you are embarrassing yourself in front of everyone reading this thread.
Across this entire exchange with
@AlwaysWrightDM and me, you keep repeating that "writings outside the Bible" prove Jesus didn't stay dead. Yet after I explicitly challenged you to "put the exact quote and source on the table," look at what you have actually produced:
ZERO historians' names
ZERO manuscript titles or reports
ZERO dates or citations
ZERO quotes verifying a resurrection
I literally had to do your homework for you by naming Tacitus (Annals 15.44, c. 116 CE), Pliny the Younger (Letters 10.96, c. 112 CE), Suetonius (Life of Claudius, c. 120 CE), and Josephus (Antiquities, c. 93 CE)โand your big comeback is "The ones you listed aren't the only ones btw lmfao" while STILL failing to name a single one!
Did you even read the post you replied to, or do you just repeat yourself on autopilot? Every dodge you just tried was already dismantled right above your comment.
The "Secret Sources" Bluff (Bare Assertion Fallacy)
Crying "I already responded to this" and waving your hands at "History itself" doesn't magically invent a citation you never gave. And if you mean late-1st or 2nd-century church bishops like Clement or Ignatius, citing non-eyewitness Christians repeating their own church creed decades later isn't independent historical proof of a miracle. it's circular reasoning. As I already told you.
"There is not a single contemporary, extra-biblical source that substantiates the resurrection of Jesus."
Moving the Goalposts ("support for Jesus not only living")
Nobody told you a preacher named Jesus didn't live. Read the exact post above your head where I already wrote what Roman records show...
"- that a man named Jesus was executed under Pontius Pilate, that his followers subsequently formed a sect, and that this sect practiced rituals and claimed he was alive."
Pivoting from "Jesus physically rose from the dead" to "Jesus lived" is a desperate dodge because you know you can't back up your resurrection claim.
Category Error ("support for Jesus... being God both in and out of the bible")
You walked face first back into the exact trap I just explained to you...
Claim A
"Historical records prove early Christians believed Jesus rose from the dead." (Historically uncontroversial)
Claim B
"Historical records outside the Bible prove Jesus actually rose from the dead." (Completely unsupported)
As I already wrote
"A historian noting that Heaven's Gate members believed a spacecraft was trailing the Hale-Bopp comet is not evidence that an alien craft existed. In the same way, a Roman governor noting that Christians worshiped Christ as a deity is not evidence of a bodily resurrection."
Burden of Proof Reversal & Projection ("U choosing to not believe it isn't a lack of proof lol")
First you claimed "Literally nothing proves that he stayed dead"โwhich I already crushed...
"We don't need to 'prove' he stayed dead. We aren't making a claim of a supernatural event. Christians are. Christians have a burden of proof. Non-believers are just concluding a logical progression of everything humanity has experienced. That people who are dead for three days rotting in desert tombs, don't get up and walk around."
Now you whine that I'm "choosing to not believe" sources that you haven't even named. I can't reject a source that only exists in your imagination.
Stop embarrassing yourself with "lmfao" and "lol" to cover up an empty hand. Here is the challenge from my post for the second time.
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Your bashing continues below โฌ๏ธ