Catholics will simply refute this by saying she is alive in Heaven, therefore it is not 'necromancy'.
It's better to cite the New Testament (1 Timothy 2:5 for example) and analyze WHY Marian intercession was practiced to begin with (Pagan influence with no apostolic correction).
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I always anticipate that answer and I don’t think it’s a refutation.
By that logic, everyone who passes away is “alive” in the sense of having an eternal soul and this would have been true in the time of the Mosaic Law as it was after the new covenant but those same prohibitions remain, and it’s always been condemned in the strongest, most severe terms. There are New Testament warnings as well.
That being said, I agree with your argument too. One thing you see all throughout Scripture is this powerful human inclination towards idolatry and paganism and you wonder why that is. When the Israelites strayed it was the first thing they always did.
My theory, is people want to seek closeness to the divine and pagan entities give the illusion of that while not coming with the conviction of sin that accompanies becoming closer to God.
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Absolutely ridiculous logic. Your arguments make no sense whatsoever if the Bible is to be believed. It is a perfectly sound refutation, whether you accept it or not.
Scripture makes it very clear that those who are alive in Christ never spiritually die. Do I really need to list the dozen or so scriptural references for this?
We are surrounded by a “cloud of witnesses” (the saints who have passed before us) and Revelation 5:8 and 8:3-4 show the saints in heaven offering prayers before the Lord.
1 Timothy 2:5 is not a refutation of intercessory prayer directed toward the saints. It is simply acting in communion with the Church Triumphant, as we are instructed in 1 Timothy 2:1.
Nothing impure can enter Heaven (Revelation 21:27), and the prayers of the righteous are powerful (James 5:16). The saints in heaven are purified of all sin, made perfect and holy so as to stand in the presence of the Father. Scripture tells us that not only are they in
Heaven offering prayers before God, but that the prayers of the righteous avail much. Asking for their intercession logically follows.
You falsely equate prayer to a worshipful act reserved solely for the Divine, but that is not the definition of prayer. It simply means to make a request. We are not treating the angels and saints as divine creatures, but rather as heavenly creatures who have been made holy by God, and who desire to see us join them in Heaven.
Intercessory prayer is powerful not merely for supplication but also for edification of the soul. That is what the rosary is primarily for, for example. Scripture tells us to “pray without ceasing,” and that is the origin of meditative prayer (such as the rosary) in the Christian tradition. Emptying yourself of earthly focus and desires, even for just ten minutes, and entering a state of meditating on Christ’s life through the rosary is incredibly powerful in helping one grow in holiness.
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