What’s happening to the Church? 😅

They have the moral high ground, which means they can describe someone as being a different species, yet that’s not hateful at all. Some people engage in this in bad faith - Suella clearly isn’t one of them. She hasn’t called you less than human.

This feels like the trans issue all over again. The argument is “how could you possibly say that!” There are no decent arguments about what a collection nation/people are and have been thought of as for 1000s of years. Why are there no white Indians?

Does this not reinforce the cause of why this debate this happening? Could you openly tweet about any non-white ethnic group being “mongrels?” So why can you for English? I’m not sure why we have to compare ourselves to dogs to ingratiate the be kind brigade.

The English happen to be a caucasian ethnic group. They make the argument about white / non white, but it’s not accurate. I am ethnically Irish. But im as pale as they come. If I hypothetically had a baby with an Irish woman in England, the child would be Irish, not English. “British-Irish” we could say. You will notice on medical and census data there is no “British-Irish” option - only “white-Irish.” Presumably because Irish people are white, we don’t have to worry about them feeling excluded, as their ethnic group has no DEI protected status in society. They also wouldn’t care. I’ve actually met English-born ethnically Irish people in Britain who describe themselves as Irish (because they are). However, they have English accents, have never lived in Ireland, and don’t plan on moving to Ireland. They would be “culturally English” of this moment in time. But culture obviously changes - we wouldn’t have the same outlook as an Englishman from 1500, but he was still English. But also to add, these “British-Irish” people I meet often have biases over Ireland and would support them over England in sports. I’m unsure if you can ever fully remove allegiance to your heritage nation. I would choose Britain over Ireland, as I never felt at home there, but I think I’m an exception - not the rule. But the English will only have the England team to support, unless they have a strange self-hating preference. Can you see the imbalance here? Many non-white ethnic groups in the west constantly exert their racial identity and talk about “their culture”…. So it seems they get the best of both worlds. They’re English but also eg Nigerian and can complain about lack of Nigerian representation, lack of celebration of Nigerian culture, and actively create initiatives which aim to privilege their own ethnic group. The English can barely promote their history, flag, ethnic group, without being seen as hateful. Nor can they adopt a 2nd ethnic identity. Why do we never see white people talking about their “Nigerian culture.” Because they’re not Nigerian!

“Without immigration, we cannot pay for our pensions.” Apparently importing millions from outside Europe to pay for your pension is the “moral” position. Pro open borders activists are materialists. It’s never been about humanitarianism and enrichment.

Just the fact you can be granted a visa and then protest the government for which you are not a citizen - and we actively encourage and appease this sort of ungrateful behaviour - shows Britain is merely a place for the whole world.

Pure Nostalgia 🥲

And does public opinion on the matter mean nothing? In principle, I’d love for asylum to work and be beneficial for both hosts and refugees - but it causes so many problems for ordinary citizens who have no say. We cannot solve the world’s problems

It’s incredible they think they can do this and it will not result in white identity backlash. Perhaps that’s what they want. The demand for racial injustice and special privileges is high.

The thought police, now including a new ingredient: love.

I stopped watching #BBCQT while back. I can’t stomach it. Ash Sarkar is a self described communist the BBC will gladly have on someone explicitly far-Left and present her as some sort of reasonable voice. And the audience clap like seals. Ash strikes me as someone who harbours a deep resentment for native Brits due to some identity crisis she has suffered from her place as a 2nd gen Bangladeshi immigrant. This is what causes her to take solidarity with random third world men breaking into the country and causing terror on local communities. Somehow opposing these men is a threat to her. She puts herself within their coalition, despite her legal status and being born here. One would think she should have more solidarity with white Brits born here than random Sudanese men, but there you go. Don’t fall for her tactics. This is continued gaslighting and manipulation to silence you so they can exert power over those of us who are reasonably concerned and desperate on this matter. Also it’s amusing that all of a sudden she is for men “with big penises” (ie - macho men are superior and preferred by her) even though she also can’t describe what women/men are in the same breath, due to her coalition with trans activists. Isn’t this “body shaming” men with small penises? And perhaps she can inform me while answering this - are Bangladeshi penises, on average, smaller than white penises? I really find her quite revolting. Would she feel the same way if hoards of white Ukrainian men were breaking into Bangladesh for “asylum” and raping their women?

This is very concerning. With the tories / reform / restore, the vote makes up 51%, yet Labour will floor them all on a meagre 26%.

This is not controversial. And any attempt to socially engineer and shame people into having to be attracted to a certain group is extremely rapey. I'm gay and I am not sure if I'd data a bisexual man. I would always worry he would be drawn to a life of having his own children.

This is the tactic which was used against reasonable concerns on immigration from the 90s. It didn’t work. It actually made the problem worse and sentiment grow stronger. You’re better than this Dan - engage with the argument and explain why it’s incorrect instead of name calling. Who gets to decide? And why are you, Sunak, or Rees-Mogg the arbiters of this? I don’t even need to give my view on the matter to point out this is a dishonest and cowardly way to engage in a debate. If millions of Brits feel this way, including many ethnic minorities, what are you going to do about it?

“I love abortion” It’s goddam disturbing how many progressives are rabid for abortion, instead of seeing it as a tragedy (whether you’re pro or anti).