Joe Mazulla says he does jiu-jitsu against superior fighters because it’s good for leaders to feel what it's like to get crushed in something “I like stepping onto the mats. Because you could walk in one day having a good day, and I would say like 60% of the time I leave the mats, I’m crushed emotionally. Just discouraged, disheartened. But I need that.” “I would say like 70% of the time I choose the difficult path. My professor will sometimes call me out, which I like. But if I’m not doing it there, where are you doing it?” “When you become a coach or you become into a leadership role, it’s easy to hide. Because now you’re kind of telling other people what to do, and people may not tell you. So you need something that exposes yourself to yourself.” “You need to feel what it’s like to be disheartened. Feel what it’s like to be discouraged. What fighting does is it gives you instant feedback. Basketball doesn’t give you instant feedback.” “After that five-minute round, you know what you did right there. How quickly can you take that feedback and apply it to the next round?”