every single one of his points is either factually wrong or has a public answer. His tweet gained a lot of attention so I think it's worth going line by line:
"The business is farming user data and selling to AI labs for nearly $100m ARR."
This is just entirely wrong. Grass doesn't farm user data, it routes web scraping of public web pages through unused residential bandwidth. It never touches your personal data. It borrows idle network capacity.
"In return, they give you a memecoin with 0 value accrual"
"0" is just false. Buybacks are already live ($350K and growing), all revenue flows to a foundation owned entity and the foundation's mandate is to grow the network and the token. So no this isnt just a memecoin. there's a real business, real customers, real revenue and a structure where value can only accrue to the token.
Is the value accrual as good as it could be? No. There's a lot left to be desired and I dont disagree on that front. But that's the actual investment case. Grass is a fast growing business with real revenue and value accrual is a fixable problem, not a structural issue. As a holder, I'd rather they prioritize compounding top line revenue right now than spend it buying back the token early. You're free to disagree on that tradeoff. There are good points on both sides.. ut "0 value accrual" is factually incorrect.
"We have no idea where the revenue goes (assume it lines their pockets until someone shares expense data)"
We do know. All revenue flows into Grass DataCo, an entity wholly owned by the foundation.
It does not flow to the team or to a private equity co. The one fair point buried in here is that the expense breakdown (specifically the service provider fee) isn't fully public. But the "we have no idea where the revenue goes" is wrong. The destination is known and it's the foundation.
"Team says Grass is an 'ownerless foundation' yet there are centralized decisions made all the time"
Correct. That’s how ownerless foundations work.
"Ownerless" means no one holds equity or a residual claim on the profits. It does not mean no one makes decisions. Those two things are separate by design. The decisions are made by independent directors, not the team, whose fiduciary duty is to the foundation and its mandate to grow the network and the token.
"Andrej says there is no equity even though they raised venture funding (who gets paid if GRASS got acquired?)"
Andrej is right and this is actually the strongest part of the structure. There is no equity vehicle to acquire. The early raises were equity in the labs entity, but the value (the IP, the hardware, and most importantly the revenue and customer contracts) are in the ownerless foundation and the most recent raise was a token sale, not equity.
So if an acquirer showed up tomorrow, there's nothing to buy. they could hire the team and license a terminable service contract but the assets that make Grass valuable sit inside a foundation with no owner to sell them. That's the opposite of the equity/token issue that plagues most crypto projects. it's the structure that protects token holders from exactly the "founders get the bag, holders get nothing" outcome that we have seen many times before in crypto.
So the irony is that Grass is closer to the healthy version of this than almost anything else with real revenue. The framing of "this is what's wrong with crypto" is backwards, the equity/token mismatch he's describing is what's wrong with crypto and Grass is one of the few real revenue projects that actually fixed it
but this is the whole point around the grass thesis. It is misunderstood from multiple angles and the reality is its a much cleaner looking business than just about anything else in crypto
GRASS is terrible for crypto. Here's why:
- The business is farming user data and selling to AI labs for nearly $100m ARR.
- In return, they give you a memecoin with 0 value accrual
- We have no idea where the revenue goes (assume it lines their pockets until someone shares expense data)
- Team says Grass is an "ownerless foundation" yet there are centralized decisions made all the time
- Andrej says there is no equity even though they raised venture funding (who gets paid if GRASS got acquired?)
This facade lasts until they raise more against equity, they rug the token, or tokenholders get smart and dump this memecoin - don't stick around to see which comes first.