Watch as this Chinese ambassador completely falls apart, calling millions of deaths under Mao 'gossips' and throwing a massive tantrum when the French journalist won't let him change the subject. Talk about a total clown show. When you have zero defense for history, throwing a fit and whining about human rights in America is all you have left!
Darius Rochebin: "Mao Zedong had so many people deported, tortured, and murdered—millions of people. Do you understand the feeling of many Westerners that at the time, General de Gaulle was wrong, and that today, those who want to deal with China might also be wrong?"
Deng Li: "Every time you interview me, you always quibble over these old gossips, you aren't being honest. You call this asking me—asking me these kinds of questions."
Darius Rochebin: "Mr. Ambassador, you call those gossips?"
Deng Li: "That's right, gossips."
Darius Rochebin: "The millions of deaths caused by Mao Zedong are gossips? "
Deng Li: "It's not—it's not fair, it's not accurate. Yes."
Darius Rochebin: "What do you mean, what isn't accurate?"
Deng Li: "Because where did you study?"
Darius Rochebin: "What isn't accurate, pardon?"
Deng Li: "Stop, today I came—I didn't come here to discuss these gossips with you. I am here to discuss the international situation and current events with you."
Darius Rochebin: "Mr. Ambassador, Germany paid morally, financially, and legally for its crimes. It is true that certain war crimes were not prosecuted, notably French or Algerian war crimes, notably certain colonial crimes, but here we are talking about China, you are represented by China. So now, we cannot—pardon..."
Deng Li: "I ask you to demand that the Japanese pay the price for their war crimes, the crimes of the Second World War, of the war against China."
Darius Rochebin: "Do you understand, pardon, however, that this weighs on President Xi Jinping? He was part of the very high nomenclature, but even his family had suffered from Stalinist purges. That is true, isn't it?"
Deng Li: "I am not here to discuss these gossips with you. I repeat it once again."
Darius Rochebin: "But pardon, how… "
Deng Li: "No need to say that."
Darius Rochebin: "You speak French so well."
Deng Li: "We can continue talking about the international situation."
Darius Rochebin: "You speak French so well, you know that an eminent politician, eminent by the place he held in politics, when he spoke of details of history concerning the Shoah, he was heavily prosecuted..."
Deng Li: "Regarding the so-called human rights in your country, in so many other Western countries, there are many more human rights problems."
Darius Rochebin: "What problems? What problems?"
Deng Li: "Recently, China published a report on the human rights situation in the United States. If you are interested, I can provide you with all those reports. You can see what the situation is, how severe the human rights situation is in the United States and so many other Western countries; it's the exact same thing."
Darius Rochebin: "But Mr. Ambassador, I must insist on this because you used the word 'gossip', and these are—pardon, just like the victims of the Gulag whose memory matters so much, just like the victims of the Chinese camps whose memory matters so much, the word 'gossip' has something deeply shocking about it for their memory. Do you understand that?"
Deng Li: "So it's different, you see, you can talk about other things. Things about other countries, but when it comes to China, I am sure that what you are telling are gossips."