Given the Herbert & Jordan Love discourse this week, I feel like folks can only come to one logical conclusion: These quarterbacks must be massively overpaid! They’re compensated as if they can uplift their situation, but turns out they’re totally helpless!

Sep 25, 2026 · 1:33 PM UTC

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Kinda reminds me of Mahomes last year with poor oline and run game. Nick somehow thinks the Chiefs Oline has to be right, but all other teams need to be able to overcome historically bad olines. Makes sense for Nick.
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Unlike Purdy who went back to the basics to improve his game, Love seems to have forgotten what he learned while watching Aaron Rogers.
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I think this takes “uplift” too far. Elite QBs should elevate their circumstances. They shouldn’t make circumstances irrelevant. Green Bay had 9 carries for 17 yards last night. Love dropped back 54 times. Herbert is two games into an entirely new offense. Hold QBs accountable for what they control. But if “elite” means overcoming every schematic, protection, rushing and defensive problem around them, we’re creating a standard that no QB consistently meets. Context isn’t an excuse. It’s how you evaluate what actually happened.
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I’ve said all along the QB market was getting out of hand. Too many mid QBs being paid as elite superstars.
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quarterback discourse is so narrow minded lol, win and they’re good, lose and they’re bad, there’s sm more nuance to this, if anybody’s calling herbert or love top 5 quarterbacks they’re wrong, but to act like just because they’re paid x amount of money that they’re supposed to thrive in circumstances that no quarterback can thrive it? that’s lunacy lol. jordan love had 2.2 seconds to throw yesterday, tom brady is gonna look awful in those circumstances
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The QB discourse has become hilarious. We pay them like CEOs, then analyze them like they’re supposed to be the entire company. Turns out even a $60M quarterback still needs somebody to block.
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What makes this hilarious is that we finally got to see Patrick Mahomes experience the kind of offensive-line dysfunction Justin Herbert has been dealing with for nearly THREE straight seasons. Weeks 14 & 15 last year were the first time Mahomes faced a pressure environment remotely comparable to what Herbert has grown accustomed to. And what happened? Mahomes: 19.0 passer rating → 62.0 passer rating 0 TD, 4 INT. For two games, Mahomes had to operate in the exact kind of environment that Herbert has been expected to transcend for years. And, remarkably, there wasn’t a QB in football who played worse over that stretch than Mahomes. That’s the part the discourse this yapping fanboy keeps conveniently stepping over. Nobody is arguing that QB's are helpless. The point is that QB play is contextual. Protection, pressure, supporting cast, play-calling, all of it matters. But if your argument is that elite QB's are supposed to “uplift their situation” regardless of circumstances, then you have to apply that standard consistently. Because the moment Mahomes encountered the same structural problem Herbert has been living with, the “just elevate” theory suddenly became a lot less persuasive. Selective memory is funny. The issue was never whether environment matters. It was whether you were willing to admit it matters when the QB in that environment isn’t the one you stan.
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Same circumstance as Love this year and Herbert for 3 years. Mahomes played against Tampa in the Super Bowl in 2020 and he looked worse. You’re just mouthbreather who constantly yelling on TV, and you couldn’t be more wrong.
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There's like a dozen things the Packers need to worry about before QB.
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Jordan Love insanely overpaid. The timing of his extension was after HALF (keyword half) of just one season. Insane PR
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If Mahomes was playing on this team he would look horrible Nick. It would be the Bucs superbowl every week.
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55Ms you’re supposed to be able to put the team on ur back. They make to many excuses for these mediocre QBs
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It’s negligent for a franchise to pay a QB franchise QB money and not provide a supporting cast. They’re just wasting on their investment. Blame the organization for this, not the QBs.
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People are too quick to pay their QBs. Scouts are too quick to declare QBs in the draft “generational.” And people don’t know how to develop QBs anymore. It’s legitimately a problem
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What qb has “uplifted” bad situations? Because Patrick sure didn’t last year? This feels disingenuous
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dont ever put those 2 mid qbs in the same convo as hurts again
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Peoples first instinct is to attack and go after the QB. This is a team sport, contrary to what the media makes football seem like. Packer roster is flat out not good enough, not just a QB problem.
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Tell me the last QB who could “uplift” a shitty OL? No QB is great when their team can’t block.
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Never want to hear that either is better than Jalen Hurts again
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Herbert has dragged a poor Chargers team to back to back 11 win seasons. Is he playing poorly currently, 1000%. But to act like he hasn't overcome crap rosters and bad roster building since he joined the league is dense.
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Elon's algorithm with the very rare W here lmao
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Herbert’s not going to fuck you nick. Get off his dick.
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If you look at Loves stat line 312 and 2 in a Loss That’s the most Herbert game ever. The if man cult would defend that statline and blame everything but him in this scenario
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The chargers went 11-5 last year
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Bro wtf do you even be talking about. You just witness Herbert sweep the chiefs last year with a hurt roster. And go 11-6…. You’re so intellectually dishonest. Shi is sad
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So you’re just going to ignore the terrible OL in GB and no run game. Gotcha
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The Spanos family are trash. They give Herbert another contract, the Chargers organization should be shut down.
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It’s what we call “implicit dissonance” where there’s no tangible way that someone arrives at absolutely the worst informed conclusion.
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Or the market is what the market is for Franchise QBs? No one wants to be the Jets. I’ll never understand this money based argument when it comes to QBs. Jordan and Justin are franchise QBs. Are they elite? Not right now no. Are they good? Yes.
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Jalen Hurts won with his OL in disarray why they cant since they're elite?
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All we heard last year was Mahomes would stop sucking once ___ gets back from injury and before you know it he never stopped sucking
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Clearly there are huge O line issues with both. I've yet to see any QB really account for playing behind literal sieves! We all remember what the Bucs did to Mahomes in the Superbowl. It is these sort of performances that really illustrate why the trenches are the first thing teams really need to sort out.
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Say it louder so @danorlovsky7 can hear it
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@getnickwright do you ever take Herberts balls out of your mouth?
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Imagine what the discourse u and ur brethren would have if this was Purdy, u guys ready to send him back to his parents when he throws a pick despite winning, these 2 "STUD" upper echelon talents are tanking their teams and being defended by some of ur peers
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