"they’d love to see the US frontier labs immolated by the industrial strategy of America’s principal geostrategic rival"
Once again, the main AI companies in China have so far been financed almost entirely by private capital and the Chinese authorities still seem distinctly not AGI-pilled, so what exactly is this even about?
I just asked ChatGPT and, even taking a broad view of subsidies, subsidies for model development seem to be similar in China and the US in absolute value. It's larger in relative terms in China, but that's just because US companies spend a lot more on model development.
That's not even taking into account export controls on advanced chips, which are a massive implicit subsidy to US companies, while it takes into account Chinese subsidies that were only put in place in response to export controls.
To the extent that Chinese open-weight models threaten capital expenditures by US companies, there is no evidence that it's driven by any "industrial companies" at the moment.
The evidence suggests that Chinese companies just adopted the open-weight model because they're still lagging behind and, given this fact, they see it as a good commercial strategy.
We don't know whether they are right and whether they will be able to get a return on their investment with that strategy or even whether they will continue to release open-weight models if/when they catch up anymore than we know whether the closed model will be economically successful.
But there is no reason why US companies should be protected from competition by Chinese companies on the ground that we have to protect their capital expenditure.
People seem to think that AI companies somehow have a right to preserve their economic model even if it turns out not to be viable, whether because of Chinese competition or for some other reason, but I don't see why they should.
The truth is that AI is a new technology and we don't know who will be able to capture the value it will generate or how they will do it and, in the absence of evidence that a particular economic model is only failing due to unfair competition, the state shouldn't step in to protect a particular economic model that for all we know could simply not be viable.
If people who invest in AI companies can't earn a sufficient return for whatever reason, they will stop investing in them and those companies will fail, which is exactly as it should be and the same as what happens in any other industry. That's just how capitalism works.
The technology will not be lost and even R&D will not stop, though it will likely slow down unless people find another economic model that is better able to generate returns, but again that's how it should be because continuing to pour money into investments that can't earn a sufficient return is just resources misallocation and will harm the rest of the economy.
Maybe there is a market failure argument that the state should finance R&D on AI, similar to how people argue for public support for fundamental research, but that's not an argument for reducing competition by imposing legal restrictions on Chinese open-weight models and protecting the returns of private investors.
Investors don't have a right to have their returns guaranteed by state intervention if they invested in companies with a non-viable economic model, should it turn out to be non-viable, on the ground that their returns are threatened by China's "industrial policy" when so far there is no evidence that such a policy exists, let alone that it explains the inability of US companies to generate a sufficient return for their investors.
I don't know what people in the Bay area tech industry think, but I for one don't hate AI. In fact, quite the contrary, I absolutely love it and think it's the greatest thing ever. I'm just tired of this kind of lazy arguments.
no macro-technology birthed by the bay area tech industry has been met with more hatred by bay area tech industry elites than frontier ai.
many of those elites looked at the technology landscape of 2020/1, scoffed at the labs and their weird little hopes of ‘agi,’ and concluded that cryptocurrency would be the technology of the decade.
now their businesses and worldviews are under fundamental threat from what the labs have achieved. they hate it. they beg for the labs to go away, to become commoditized, by America’s enemies if necessary. they’d love to see the US frontier labs immolated by the industrial strategy of America’s principal geostrategic rival, and they declare this proudly and in public.
they were wrong about the defining technology of the decade, and now they are scared and they want to destroy the thing they were wrong about. perhaps now they are right and the labs will be rendered insolvent by commodification. I do believe this is possible. nonetheless there is something randian about it all, about their utter disdain for success and achievement and discovery and chutzpah.