I'm of the view that there is no silver bullet for CROPS. FOCIL does contribute to CROPS. I personally think 7716 also contributes to CROPS, whether we agree to ship it or not. CROPS requires a variety of solutions to different problems.
Below are some technical corrections.
> FOCIL doesn't work if the attester set doesn't want it to.
FOCIL relies on 1-out-of-N honest assumption. FOCIL works as expected as long as there is at least one honest includer per slot.
> Spending a year on H-star to ship FOCIL without addressing the validator set's underlying issues risks the big few centralised staking entities saying 'actually nah' and refusing to attest to slots with ILs they don't like. This costs them no rewards, thinking we'll socially slash them for it is wishful thinking, and now Ethereum is compromised and you need permission to use the chain.
An actual attack here is "the big few centralised staking entities saying 'actually nah' and attempting to reorg blocks with ILs they don't like." The entities have to win over honest validators and proposer boost. It also depends on how many consecutive slots the entities have the majority control over.
This kind of attack is already feasible today. A malicious actor could attempt to reorg a block that contains transactions that don't suit its appetite, "IF" they seized control of >50% of total staked ETH. FOCIL doesn't make this worse or better. It's misleading to frame it as if FOCIL brings this attack.
I would say I'm surprised, but really I'm just disappointed with the EF Protocol's continued presumption of decentralisation as a given. Let me be clear:
FOCIL doesn't work if the attester set doesn't want it to.
The protocol priorities post focuses on post-quantum as a goal, fine, and pays lip service to CROPS; "FOCIL is Hegotá's consensus-layer centerpiece. Our appetite beyond it is close to zero unless an addition directly supports post-quantum readiness."
The elephant in the room the EF continues to ignore is that the chain is centralising at a rapid pace, and there is a lack of interest in either acknowledging the problems, or prioritising fixing any of them. For example, correlation penalties (7716) they describe as: "Adds slashing-logic surface for validator correlation with no CROPS or PQ contribution. Not a priority in a fork, we are trying to keep the CL scope light."
This is inaccurate to start, 7716 has no slashing logic, and its misguided at best to assert that it doesn't contribute to CROPS. 7716 is the best EIP on the table to improve client diversity and penalise centralisation. It's not a panacea, but its what we have, it should not be DFI'd.
Spending a year on H-star to ship FOCIL without addressing the validator set's underlying issues risks the big few centralised staking entities saying 'actually nah' and refusing to attest to slots with ILs they don't like. This costs them no rewards, thinking we'll socially slash them for it is wishful thinking, and now Ethereum is compromised and you need permission to use the chain.
Preventing this outcome is not a matter of one EIP on the margin, it needs a cultural shift within the EF to realise they don't have a divine right from God to a decentralised chain, and that they can't just focus on academic challenges like PQ while ignoring real challenges like the ongoing acceleration in chain centralisation.
We need quarterly reporting on the state of the chain, to make it harder for people to keep their head in the sand as to the severity of the situation. We need at least one EIP per fork focused on improving the nakamoto, staking gini, or other aspect of the validator set, and we need pragmatic, action-oriented leadership who care about Ethereum being CROPS beyond just a purity test. (I'm hoping that's @pcaversaccio).
There are some people in the EF that care about the chain being CROPS for real, but unless we the community are outspoken and steadfast in our demands, they won't be listened to. Please show them why we're supporters of Ethereum and not any another centralised chain, please advocate for decentralisation and CROPS in H-star and beyond. Thank you.
Last edited Sep 9, 2026 · 12:47 PM UTC
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