someone finally not mischaracterizing saitama for a goku dub
I don't normally engage with these but it's factually wrong with both universal canons. It was absolutely spelled out in Gaoru vs Saitama in the comics. The curve looked cartisian logarithmic because saitama was effectively fighting himself. The text says "instantly surpasses".
The moment saitama experiences goku's god ki, he's goku+1. There's no arguing this. It's literally as written. There is one moment where Goku is ahead of saitama and it's not when he lands a hit, it's the instant he has intent. Gaoru is only injuring saitama because he was saitama a moment before, so the scale is slowly increasing. Goku could breathe on saitama and saitama is goku+1. That is literally how the character works.
Even in this fight as shown, Saitama is instantly multiversal destruction level as goku crosses the threshold after the first punch.
It's not "toon force" even, or "gag hero" it's just power scale as written, though those are both valid arguments too. Saitama surpasses the thing in front of him. The word "instantly " is used. Not "a moment later" the gaoru curve is because it's just saitama vs saitama. It would look like a hockey stick with goku, if the argument is that goku already has the power to defeat saitama in frame one, then also in frame one saitama tanks it, there's no avoiding that canon.
They both have infinite power scaling tho: so I propose it would be a stalemate and probably pretty fun for both of them.
Goku usually has to be defeated to surpass however so I imagine saitama would win round 1, and stalemate in round 2.
Also: the chart was from gaoru's perspective as he understood it, making him a bit of an unreliable narrator- beyond that, even on gaoru's chart, saitama is already ahead of the mode:saitama in frame one. There are panels in opm that show he already surpasses before any hit lands, so in no way is it possible for Goku to surpass him, because he IS Goku effectively immediately. If there's some kind of argument here that allows an unaware of saitama's power goku to have the upper hand at any point I would like to know because I don't see it. Especially if this hinges on goku having the multiverse level ki destructive force from base form.
Beyond that, ONE wrote Saitama as an absolute subversion of shonen power scaling. His entire conceptual gimmick is that limits do not apply to him, and any attempt to quantify him even with a graph just illustrates that he will immediately exist above whatever number you try to assign to him.
โIf you treat the graph as a relative visual metaphor by gaoru rather than a strict mathematical constraint, then the narrator's text that he surpasses any threshold instantly becomes the actual rule of his character.
And I'm more of a dragon ball fan more than an OPM fan, all that being said.
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goku fans mischaracterizing a shounen gag character so their โfavโ gets a dub
The biggest problem I've had with death battle is they're tourist central. It seems like all of their fans really don't care about any of the media they talk about outside of their singular personal pet show.
I have to listen to weeks of made up power scaler terms and idiots screaming about feats because they can't accept Saitama wins because that's the gag.
There is no mathematical formula or anything to it, thats just how both characters are written.
Goku would want Saitama to scale and even if he didn't, Saitama is ALWAYS STRONGER. It's not a slowly ramping up power, it's a gag.
It's not annoying by itself but their fans infect everything with their moronic discourse where they're all spitting out random headcanon cause they don't actually care about the series involved.
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saitamas attacks while fight garou destroys thousands of star systems instantaneously (billions of times faster than light), imaging how fast (MTFL+) they were moving while saitama grows exponentially but but but he needs 2 minutes for โgokuโ lmfaoooo
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if saitama and garou were physically moving at 31.5 billion times the speed of light during their exchanges, time would not just slow down; it would cease to have any meaning.
at those speeds, their mass would technically be greater than the mass of the entire observable universe
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saitama bled only once btw, while goku shattered every bone in his body, also saitama never went serious at all๐
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goku got saved by deathbattle pandering to yall goku glazers cos heโs on a losing streak๐คฃ๐คฃ
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.@DEATHBATTLE blunder strikes again, they created a new form for goku just to edge a win lmfaoooo
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ETO i see your handiwork
I don't want flying cars.
I want rivers and ocean I can swim in with friends.
I want food that isn't full of toxic chemicals and clean soil to grow it in.
I want raw nature and wilderness and places on the earth I can get lost without seeing another human.
I want air that isn't "geoengineered" and polluted.
Science is cool. Technological advancement is cool, but I don't think this makes us happier as humans.
Real human connection and clean, natural food lead to happiness. This I know. Flying cars? I'm not sure.
Maybe I am a troglodyte...
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