One of the biggest surprises in AI over the last few years has been how well coding agents generalize beyond software.
In a recent essay, MIT professor Philip Isola argued that we may be entering the era of robot-use agents: general-purpose models that can control different robots, write policies, and learn new physical tasks with little or no robot-specific training.
In this episode of Decoded, we're joined by the founders of
@theWaddleLabs and
@Robocurve, two of the startups whose work helped drive this realization. They're working at the frontier of using general-purpose models to control robots, and their recent demos helped inspire the growing conversation around robot-use agents.
Together, we dig into the research behind that idea, from code-as-policies and vision-language-action models to the harnesses and evals needed to make these systems work in the real world.
00:00 — What Are Robot-Use Agents?
02:11 — From Vision-Language-Action Models to General LLMs
04:07 — The Bitter Lesson for Robotics
07:04 — How Coding Agents Learned to Control Robots
10:41 — How Robots Learn From Experience
14:22 — The Harness as a Form of Robot Intelligence
16:14 — Watching Astra Control a Robot
20:55 — Why General Models May Win in Robotics
26:05 — How Close Are General-Purpose Robots?