🫣 Andrew Neil dismantles Labour’s Jonathan Reynolds in one of the most embarrassing moments of the year for the Business Secretary.
You’d think they’d know better, especially sat next to Andrew Neil — the best political journalist in the country, and better than just about anyone with stats, figures and detail.
Reynolds is on
@bbcquestiontime boasting about the changes his government has made to get people off benefits and into work. Neil stops him in his tracks:
“Hold on. Your own official forecasts, the Office for Budget Responsibility, under the policies you’ve just talked about, show a relentless rise in the numbers claiming sickness benefit.”
Reynolds is already beginning to panic. He doubles down: “But the incentives have been changed. The amount of money you get has been changed.”
Neil: “Well it doesn’t matter if the numbers are still rising.”
That’s when Reynolds’ brain leaves the building. He says something that makes absolutely no sense given what Neil has just revealed:
“People talk about what they would like to do and what they would do with a system they left behind and then didn’t change. That’s the kind of substantial change that actually makes a difference.”
Can these politicians actually hear themselves? Does he know what he’s saying in response to what he’s just been told? It’s incredible.
Neil is totally baffled by what he’s listening to: “What substantial change have you made if the sickness numbers are still rising?”
Reynolds is now just digging in because he’s got nowhere to go: “If you remove the incentive for people to go straight onto that system, rather than being on universal credit…”
Neil cuts in with another reality check: “But the OBR forecast takes that policy into account and it still shows the numbers rising year after year after year, as does the bill. So what are you doing to make things better?”
Reynolds refuses to acknowledge what Neil is saying and just repeats the same things again.
Painful. They really are absolutely clueless. They think they can just deliver the talking points and no one will notice. That doesn’t work when you’re sat next to
@afneil.
Imagine when they told him the seating plan and he realised who was sitting next to him. 😬😂