Consider dedicating a few minutes to the super interesting discussion in the thread below between
@CarlotaPrzPerez,
@ganeumann,
@sameer_singh17,
@daveg, and
@progress_bureau (and yours truly).
If I were a hedge fund manager with capital to deploy, I would pay close attention to one question it raises: which historical precedent does the current AI bubble belong to? Let me attempt a synthesis for you and add some of my own thoughts.
The framework obviously comes from Carlota. As she wrote in her landmark "Technological Revolutions and Financial Capital" (2002), every technological revolution goes through four phases. Irruption and frenzy form the installation period, driven by financial speculation. Synergy and maturity form the deployment period, when the technology diffuses and total factor productivity rises. A turning point separates the two. The whole sequence is called a "great surge of development".
Now, if you look back at history, each surge tends to produce two bubbles. The first bursts at the turning point, let's call it a “mid-cycle crash” that marks the shift from installation to deployment. The second comes at the end, when asset prices drift away from fundamentals while productivity growth stalls. Let’s call that one a “late-cycle crash.”
Let’s examine the third surge, the age of steel, electricity, and heavy engineering, which Carlota dates to Carnegie’s Bessemer steel works in 1875. Installation brought cheap steel, transcontinental railways, the telephone, and the first power stations, mostly led by the US and financed by a wave of foreign lending, mostly from the UK. The mid-cycle crash came with the Baring crisis of 1890, when Argentine bonds collapsed and the Bank of England had to rescue a pillar of the City, followed by the American panic of 1893, when overbuilt railways went bankrupt one after another. Deployment followed: the Belle Époque, the great merger movement that produced US Steel and General Electric, and the electrification of factories and cities.
As Sameer points out, the late-cycle crash for the third surge came in 1919–21. The First World War had pushed commodity prices and inflation to extremes. The Federal Reserve raised its discount rate to 7 percent in 1920, and wholesale prices fell by more than a third within a year.
By then, a new great surge, initiated with the launch of Ford’s Model T, was already installing itself.
(Obviously, the closer we get to the present, the harder it becomes to classify each bubble correctly. That’s where a capital allocator can make expensive mistakes, so keep paying attention if you don’t want to shoot yourself in the foot 😅)
Again, the fourth surge, oil, automobiles, and mass production, starts with the Model T in 1908. From the thread below, it is clear that its mid-cycle crash is 1929. During the 1920s, manufacturing productivity rose by 43 percent while wages stagnated, a Great Decoupling in which the technology was ready but consumer purchasing power had yet to be institutionalized. Surplus capital flowed into speculation until the bubble burst. As Bill Janeway once pointed out to me, the Depression really took hold in 1931, with the international banking crisis and gold-standard austerity.
Then came the Second World War, a major disruption that belongs in a completely different category from financial crashes. It forced radical institutional innovation. The Wagner Act and Social Security were already in place in the US, but Europe finally followed with empowered labor unions and the welfare state, while Europe and America together put the Bretton Woods system in place. This brand-new socio-institutional framework, effectively brought about in reaction to the horrors of the war and the Holocaust, turned workers into mass consumers, and deployment, which had already begun in the 1930s, at least in the US, restarted on steroids across the West and Japan, ushering in the postwar Golden Age.
Then the fourth surge’s plateau finally arrived in the 1970s. US productivity growth fell from 2.8 percent a year before 1973 to 1.2 percent between 1973 and 1979, and markets for cars and appliances approached saturation. The late-cycle crash in the US was the collapse of the Nifty Fifty, blue chips such as Polaroid, Xerox, and Avon that investors had bid up to 40 or 50 times earnings as “one-decision” stocks. The oil shock of 1973 quadrupled crude prices, inflation surged, interest rates followed, and the S&P 500 lost almost half its value between January 1973 and October 1974.
Then something interesting happened. The West found two aces up its sleeve. The first was globalization, with production moving offshore and China’s integration into the world economy becoming the defining feature of the era. The second was financialization, of production through shareholder value and leveraged buyouts, and of consumption through what Colin Crouch called “privatized Keynesianism”: household debt and home equity standing in for wage growth to sustain middle-class demand.
Together, these two forces, globalization and financialization, bought two and a half more decades of growth for an exhausted paradigm. I suggest we call this period the “Borrowed Decades,” because previous surges have no equivalent: an almost dead techno-economic paradigm kept alive by cheap labor borrowed from abroad and cheap credit borrowed from the future.
There was a price to pay, obviously. Part of it was paid in the form of a spectacular decoupling between productivity and wages across the West. Then, eventually, financialization went too far, which gave us the crisis of 2008. Here I agree with Jerry that 2008 had little to do with a technological revolution.
Meanwhile, the fifth surge, semiconductors, software, and networks, had started with Intel’s microprocessor in 1971. Then came the Internet, the mid-cycle crash of 2000, with the end of the dot-com era and the collapse of the telecom bubble, and deployment, which, as Jerry says, was already underway in 2003–07 with broadband, search, and, in 2007, the iPhone.
I believe 2022 marks the shift from synergy to maturity within the fifth great surge. Software multiples crashed, and ChatGPT opened a phase in which incumbents (which Jerry calls "synergy companies") moved first with massive capex—a clear sign that we had reached the late cycle.
At this point, it’s important to reiterate that, viewed from this perspective, AI is the closing chapter of the fifth surge: it's nothing more than semiconductors, software, and networks on steroids—much like in the 1970s we had oil, automobiles, and mass production on steroids with muscle cars, Batillus-class supertankers, the Concorde, and so on. The problem, characteristic of the late cycle, is that such overshoots funded by abundant capital strain physical resources, which today means power, copper, and memory, with memory prices up six- to eightfold according to Sameer. This clearly suggests we are indeed in the buildout to a late-cycle crash resembling the 1970s and 1919–21, what Sameer calls “the wrong kind of bubble.”
For an investor, these are very important signs. A mid-cycle crash tends to be followed by a golden age, so buying the lows of 1932 or 2002 paid off handsomely. By contrast, a late-cycle crash tends to be followed by a long grind. During the fourth surge, the Dow first reached 1,000 in 1966 and only broke clearly above that level in 1982, with inflation eroding real returns throughout. Assets built for the old demand get stranded, like the supertankers ordered before the oil shocks and scrapped within a decade of delivery.
David and ProgressBureau are right on an important point: in our AI era, infrastructure is being built before the consumer use cases for agents exist, and if history is to be trusted, use cases do tend to arrive. The difference between the mid-cycle and the late-cycle is *who gets paid for what the technology delivers*: as Jerry explained in his landmark 2025 article, “AI will not make you rich,” published by
@colossusmag (cc
@zebriez @patrick_oshag), late-cycle buildouts have tended to reward users more than the people who financed them. This is probably what’s about to happen with AI, as the real, widespread use cases will rely on cheap open-weight models run locally on users’ devices, leaving all those data centers up for being scrapped like the old supertankers.
There’s one more possibility to consider. Just as the fourth surge got its Borrowed Decades, the fifth may find its own, with a different mix of globalization and financialization.
Carlota sees a possible way out through a new kind of globalization whereby the Global South buys capital goods from the West and develops its economies by exporting consumer goods. And on the financial side, the instruments of a new wave of financialization are already emerging, potentially giving birth to a world where money is programmable. Cc
@mariekeflament
In the 1970s and 1980s, the reset that opened the Borrowed Decades came through the Nixon shock, petrodollar recycling, and London’s Big Bang. This time, it may come through what Marieke and I called the Trump Shock, computedollar recycling, and a financial big bang yet to be determined.
If so, we could see a new version of the Borrowed Decades.
But this time, the sources of what is being borrowed could be different. Instead of cheap labor borrowed from globalization, we could get cheap labor borrowed from progress in robotics. And instead of cheap credit created through conventional financialization, we could get cheap credit through financialization on steroids, in the form of programmable money.
In other words, the fifth surge may not be finished after all. It may find its own way to extend the life of an exhausted paradigm, just as the fourth surge did. The late-cycle crash could then open a second extension, and the investors who make money will be the ones who spot early where those next decades are being borrowed from.
Meanwhile, obviously, a sixth surge is probably already underway. I have three hypotheses on my desk. One, initiated in China, is what I call the age of renewables, batteries, and electrification. Another, of which Sameer is a proponent, is a technological revolution in consumer robotics: open-weight models embedded in and running on robots that anyone can use and tinker with. A third hypothesis, which I think is top of mind for Carlota, is closer to a revolution in biotech, biochemicals, and related fields, which, by the way, is also being led by China.
In fact, is there any sign that the sixth revolution won’t be led by China? I don’t see any. But that's a discussion for another day.