Gate Ventures Podcast | Episode 14
Scarcity: Alpha, Tungsten, Dinosaur Bones
🌟Guest: Daniel Matuszewski, Co-founder of CMS Holdings
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🎤Host: Jeremy Wallis, Partner at Gate Ventures
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Bitcoin, a 41-pound tungsten cube, and a 70-million-year-old skeleton. Three very different assets, one shared question: what actually makes something scarce — and who decides what that scarcity is worth?
Our guest Daniel Matuszewski, Co-founder of CMS Holdings and former Head of Trading at Circle, has spent four cycles trading scarcity in every form it comes in. He joins us to talk about where crypto liquidity goes when it leaves the screen.
We'll cover:
🔹Bitcoin, tungsten, fossils — which purchase still best expresses how he thinks about scarce assets
🔹Tungsten cubes: a density meme that became a position, or a real analog to hard money?
🔹Fossil price discovery from Stan to Apex to Gus — how it rhymes with a thin alt going parabolic on one venue
🔹Diligencing a skeleton like a token: provenance, composites, and what the fossil equivalent of a rug looks like
🔹The private fossil market vs. early crypto OTC — same information asymmetry, same counterparty risk, older collateral
🔹Would a "dinosaur index" or tungsten futures market ever be tradable — and what's the next dino trade?
September 10, 2026, 2 – 3 PM UTC | 10 – 11 PM GMT+8
📍Video livestream on Gate Ventures' X — also live on X Spaces. Set your reminder 👇
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