Piers Morgan Challenges a Guest on Transgender Issues: “How Many Genders Are There?” — Her Answer Leaves Him Stunned
Angelica Malin: I don’t know why you’re obsessed with defining it. What is a man? Why do we need these arbitrary
Piers Morgan: A man is a male adult human, and that’s it.
Angelica Malin: These are just biological facts, but they’re not arguable points, are they?
Piers Morgan: You say we have a right to self-identify. If you’d like to be a woman, you can identify as a woman. I don’t know why there is such an issue around—
We’ve literally just seen a male rapist use that scam to get himself put into a female prison where he could attack vulnerable women inside a female prison.
Angelica Malin: Which is a terrible, very distressing, isolated incident. I think it’s easy to take that and say that means no one can identify as a woman.
Esther Krakue: But it’s 42% of trans-identifying prisoners in prison are in there for sex crimes. There’s actually an advantage evidently to identifying as a female.
Piers Morgan: Is it limitless, this self-identity?
Angelica Malin: It’s not totally limitless. But when you’re talking about International Women’s Day, I don’t know why we take the conversation and make it about this.
Piers Morgan: But if anyone can identify as a woman, anyone can, right?
Angelica Malin: I don’t see a problem with it.
Piers Morgan: So why can’t I identify as a black lesbian? If I can identify as anything without any need to prove I’m actually what that is, why can’t I say, “I’m Piers Morgan, I’m a black lesbian”?
Angelica Malin: I think you’re taking it to an absurd status.
Piers Morgan: You’ve already opened the absurdity door by saying it’s limitless. Anyone can say, “I’m a woman.” So I simply ask you, why can’t I?
Angelica Malin: I don’t think you have to say it’s post-op as the only way someone’s allowed to identify.
Esther Krakue: The original standard for being transgender was being diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Now it’s, “However you feel.” If you feel on Tuesday you’re a woman and on Thursday you’re a pizza, that’s perfectly valid. We should be talking about actual women on International Women’s Day.
Angelica Malin: I mean, I agree. But what your idea of an actual woman—
Esther Krakue: The chromosomes. An adult female. It’s not difficult.
Angelica Malin: I don’t think you have to be biologically female to identify.
Esther Krakue: Then you are wrong, because then I can identify as a fox.
Piers Morgan: Well, let me ask you this, Angelica: how many genders are there?
Angelica Malin: Two.
Piers Morgan: There are two genders?
Angelica Malin: Well—
Piers Morgan: Wow. So you don’t believe in transgender people at all? You’ve literally just launched this huge defense of transgenderism, now you’ve eradicated it.