I appreciate that a lot of liberals are implicitly conceding now that they did a smear campaign against George W. Bush that was mostly untrue to try to win the 2004 and 2008 elections. But, ya know, it doesn’t change the fact that you did that and our politics are worse for it.
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I think some of the Bush hate was unhinged but no more so than the Clinton hate from the GOP in 1990s. (Hillary is a lesbian who murdered her lover Vince Foster? 🤣) What smears do you mean in particular?

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Oh yeah 100% I think Republican smear campaigns are worse in general but I have more lib followers so I like to needle them. I think they tried to make it seem like Iraq was an unwinnable disaster in the mid to late 2000s when that wasn’t what any balanced analysis of the situation showed at that time. And they didn’t say this about Afghanistan where it would have been way more defensible which makes it seem like a weaponized partisan narrative to me. To their credit, Hillary and Obama both acknowledged they got it wrong on the troop surge but I’ve heard very few liberals admit that the far more catastrophic fallout from the Arab Spring kind of calls the entire narrative into question—how much can you even really blame Bush for the violence at all? That’s what I have expertise on anyways. I also this his proposed social security reforms that get demonized so much were quite sensible. It makes me skeptical of things I know much less about, like Katrina for example, because I feel like Bush got railroaded by negative media coverage in a similar way to how Biden later was to be honest with you.
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Exactly this. Also Bush was, PEPFAR excepted, basically wrong about everything!
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What was "unhinged" about hating the guy who failed to prevent 9/11, started a war against a country that had nothing to do with it, caused a million of deaths, the spread of ISIS, caused the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression.
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He lied to get us into a catastrophic quagmire. That’s almost as bad as it gets
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An illegal war of grievance (get Saddam back for trying to merc my Daddy) based on absolute lies...it was very Trumpian!
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Where's the evidence that this is why Bush went into Iraq?
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I think that the Clinton hate was WAAAY over the top but let's face it Vince Foster, Ron Brown and numerous others were slain to prevent the whole Iran-Contra era drug shenanigans than the Clinton's inexpertly waded into from coming out.
Is it proper to compare something said by a radio shock show host and claims by responsible journalists and party leaders that, say, Bush LIED us into a war to enrich his fat cat friends?
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The Iraq war was meh. Was Saddam a good human. No he wasn’t
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The hate that the Clintons got from the right in the 90s always seemed so ridiculous to me. Bill Clinton himself is a southern centrist blue dog democrat who was socially conservative on issues like the death penalty. To all intents and purposes, he was practically a Republican.
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He’s a POS. Objectively
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This happened in 2003: "In one of the most pointed Democratic denunciations of the war in Iraq yet, Sen. Edward Kennedy on Thursday called the Bush administration's case for going to war a fraud 'made up in Texas' to give Republicans a political boost." cbsnews.com/news/kennedy-cas…
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