The damage for SpaceX is massive "The European Union is working toward fast-track antitrust approval for a satellite joint venture between Leonardo SpA, Airbus SE, and Thales SA, which is positioned as Europe's response to SpaceX" The actions of the 🇺🇸 US administration have consequences. Recent reports from 4 sources confirm that both Elon and Trump supported the restrictions of Starshield, which confirms my earlier posts stating that SpaceX is involved and part of it. The Telegraph on Oct. 16 reported that it was Musk who proposed the speed cap to Trump — and Trump "agreed," one source said. That sounds very likely to what really had happened including Elons denial to have any responsibility (half true) and Trumps lie which is just one more of the many he spreads every day. finance.yahoo.com/economy/po…

EU plans to fast-track antitrust approval of SpaceX rival

Investing.com -- The European Union is working toward fast-track antitrust approval for a satellite joint venture between Leonardo SpA, Airbus SE, and Thales SA, which is positioned as Europe’s...

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Many claim that 🇪🇺 Europe cannot launch the necessary satellites into orbit without SpaceX, and that is factually incorrect. The mistake most people make is believing that the same number of SpaceX satellites is required to deploy a system like StarShield, and that is incorrect. Apart from other satellites and their systems that already exist, the EU expanded IRIS² in August 2026 to a main constellation of 348 satellites: - 330 satellites in low Earth orbit (LEO) - 18 satellites in medium Earth orbit (MEO) - First launches scheduled for 2029 To launch the necessary 330 satellites into space, only 10 launches would be required, based on a realistic assumption of realistic 33 satellites per flight. Europe can therefore launch a sufficient number of satellites into space without SpaceX. The main transport burden lies with Ariane 6—the heavy-lift rocket—but also with Vega-C—the light-lift rocket—which can place satellites into orbit. So, people who claim Europa must ask SpaceX to transport their sateliettes don't know basic facts. 10 Ariane flights is not nothing but its also not a big deal.
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Nothing good was ever going to come from Elon getting involved with politics. Unfortunately he seems to be drawn to it like moth to flame. Too much wealth mixed with the hubris of thinking he knows what is best for humanity.
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Not to mention the massive, permanent shift in consumer sentiment. There is an entire demographic of buyers and everyday consumers who will never consider anything remotely connected to his name again. Brand equity completely shredded for being a douche.
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As a Tesla and SpaceX shareholder, I’m frankly furious with Elon Musk for undermining Ukraine’s defense. His actions are damaging his own companies’ reputations and putting their stock prices at risk at a critical time, when both companies need fresh capital to fund future growth and innovation. Why should shareholders pay the price for his political decisions?
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You do know they don’t have launch capabilities to put the needed satellites in orbit or have the satellites presently available!! You do know who currently has both just hilarious
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Many claim that 🇪🇺 Europe cannot launch the necessary satellites into orbit without SpaceX, and that is factually incorrect. The mistake most people make is believing that the same number of SpaceX satellites is required to deploy a system like StarShield, and that is incorrect. Apart from other satellites and their systems that already exist, the EU expanded IRIS² in August 2026 to a main constellation of 348 satellites: - 330 satellites in low Earth orbit (LEO) - 18 satellites in medium Earth orbit (MEO) - First launches scheduled for 2029 To launch the necessary 330 satellites into space, only 10 launches would be required, based on a realistic assumption of realistic 33 satellites per flight. Europe can therefore launch a sufficient number of satellites into space without SpaceX. The main transport burden lies with Ariane 6—the heavy-lift rocket—but also with Vega-C—the light-lift rocket—which can place satellites into orbit. So, people who claim Europa must ask SpaceX to transport their sateliettes don't know basic facts. 10 Ariane flights is not nothing but its also not a big deal.
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With what rockets
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Many claim that 🇪🇺 Europe cannot launch the necessary satellites into orbit without SpaceX, and that is factually incorrect. The mistake most people make is believing that the same number of SpaceX satellites is required to deploy a system like StarShield, and that is incorrect. Apart from other satellites and their systems that already exist, the EU expanded IRIS² in August 2026 to a main constellation of 348 satellites: - 330 satellites in low Earth orbit (LEO) - 18 satellites in medium Earth orbit (MEO) - First launches scheduled for 2029 To launch the necessary 330 satellites into space, only 10 launches would be required, based on a realistic assumption of realistic 33 satellites per flight. Europe can therefore launch a sufficient number of satellites into space without SpaceX. The main transport burden lies with Ariane 6—the heavy-lift rocket—but also with Vega-C—the light-lift rocket—which can place satellites into orbit. So, people who claim Europa must ask SpaceX to transport their sateliettes don't know basic facts. 10 Ariane flights is not nothing but its also not a big deal.
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Replying to @alex_avoigt
Elon’s move was brilliant. Europe cannot compete with him. It can barely dream of competing. As a result, the “ability gap” between the U.S. and Europe will continue to grow. Europe can buy from him or it can sink further into irrelevance.
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The opposite is true.
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If that is true why the speed cap last only one day?
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The speed cap is still in place.
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Starshield is useless if the US has a president like Trump that help the enemy. SpaceX stock should collapse on this news
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I just bought more spacex based on this delusional tweet.
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Honestly, it’s long overdue for Europe to take care of itself and its citizens. It pains me to say but the 🇺🇸 behaves like an erratic mafia boss yet expects “love”in return.
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You estimate 7-10 years to achieve similar capability. By then SpaceX will likely have humanoid robots, a Moon settlement, potential Mars launches, and be worth over $10T. The EU might not exist by then. This childish behaviour from the pro-war crowd is hard to grasp. You bite the hand that protects you, lash out at consequences, and dream of independence someday. Extremely juvenile.
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Well then Elon should turn it off completely for Europe right now.
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This is good . Europe has realized how dangerous Musk is .
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It’s crazy you believe anyone can compete with SpaceX. Maybe China could get close within in a decade, but Europe. lol. Never.
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Delusional does not even begin to describe Europe’s thinking
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they have nothing to replace starlink They have no self driving electric auto They have no Neuralink or SpaceX Name calling is europes only tool.
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The Telegraph isn't a source... they're claiming to have a source. You allude to four sources and only name the rumor spreader Telegraph. We have moved beyond this manipulation. Name the source or just admit this is speculation. Or another information op.
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A European “Starlink” is a beautiful thing to neuter the fascists throttling service over Ukraine. 🇺🇦
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It took 300-400 falcon 9 launches to go fully operational. And that’s using reusable cost-effective rockets that Europe doesn’t currently have. Not to mention the technology involved in deploying multiple satellites per mission. Or the internal politics of the EU spending money on something like that. Good luck.
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Thank goodness approval is the hard part.
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