"Se Zelensky accettasse le condizioni di Putin, avremmo già un accordo" ci dicono i negoziatori americani. Geniale. Assolutamente geniale. Permettetemi di applicare questa logica rivoluzionaria ad altri contesti storici: — "Se le banche accettassero le condizioni di Bonnie e Clyde, non ci sarebbero state rapine." — "Se i passeggeri del Titanic non si fossero opposti all'acqua, non ci sarebbero stati annegati." — "Se le vittime accettassero le condizioni dell'aggressore, non ci sarebbero crimini." — "Se i Paesi Bassi nel 1940 avessero accettato le condizioni di Hitler, avrebbero già avuto un accordo." — "Se il tuo portafoglio accettasse le condizioni del borseggiatore, non ci sarebbe stato crimine. Sarebbe stato un trasferimento volontario di proprietà." — "Se Checco Romano accettasse le condizioni del bullo a scuola — 'dammi il pranzo o ti picchio' — non ci sarebbe bullismo. Solo un accordo bilaterale sul catering scolastico." — "Se la Cecoslovacchia nel 1938 avesse accettato a Monaco—" ah aspetta, l'ha accettato. Poi Hitler ha preso il resto comunque. Dettaglio minore. La pace è semplicissima: basta cedere tutto quello che l'altro vuole. Trattativa riuscita. Tutti a casa.

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"Se Trump accettasse le condizioni dell'Iran, avremmo già un accordo" 😅😂
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Platí to i naopak: kdyby putler přijal Zelenského podmínky, je dávno po válce…
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Another one: "If women didn't resist during rape, it would be consensual sex/making love"
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Se l'URSS avesse ceduto i territori a Hitler, l'Operazione Barbarossa sarebbe finita subito, e sai quanti meno morti ci sarebbero stati!
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Technically if Putin just left and stopped attacking Ukraine there would be peace right now
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Демагогия! Минские соглашения сорваны западом и Украиной! О чем честно признались Меркель и Оланд, заявив что и не собирались их выполнять! второй Минск прошел совет безопасности ООН! Стамбул 2022 - сорваны западом и Украиной! Вы все время лжете, запад - недоговороспособен!
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If Jared Kushner goes to prison and accepts the other prisoners' conditions, they would have a great deal.
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Se non ci fosse Putin, il suo cerchio magico, gli oligarchi rapaci, la Russia potrebbe essere un paese migliorr
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In questo modo le guerre che assediano il Pianeta finirebbero tutte! Cavoli e non ci aveva mai pensato nessuno!
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vabbe ‘ , in linea di massima però, per contro: non è detto che un popolo che si arrende accettando tutte le condizioni del suo aggressore, venga risparmiato dall’essere annientato. È già successo.
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Se non ci fossero stati i coglioni a sostenere l'ucraina la guerra sarebbe durata pochi giorni ed ora staremmo tutti meglio compresi gli Ucraini.
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Et même si Zelensky acceptait les conditions de Poutine, ça ne serait en rien une garantie d’accord. Car Poutine n’a rien d’un homme de parole. Au contraire, il promet et fait l’opposé.
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Если Зеленский выполнил минские соглашения, то войны вообще не было, а Донбасс был бы в составе Украины.
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Questo però ci dice molto sul fatto che "Se Putin accettasse le condizioni di Zelensky" è una condizione non presente sul tavolo delle trattative. E rende ancor più chiaro quanto il dittatore russo non voglia cedere nulla.
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Es wird immer deutlicher, dass die USA ihren Zenit lange überschritten haben. * Ukraine verprellt * EU verprellt * Kanada verprellt Die regelbasierte Weltordnung wird sich durchsetzen, und weder die USA noch irgendeine andere Macht kann das verhindern.
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Zelensky è assolutamente libero di scegliere di continuare a combattere, di questo ne deve rispondere soltanto alla gente che lo ha votato e non a noi, purché la smetta di fare lo stalker accattone
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>Russia asked for Ukrainian neutrality and protection for Russians. >To hell with that. War!!! To the last Ukrainian!!!
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Так и было с Украиной. А давайте ей Донбасс дадим, а давай Харьков, а давай заберем у Польши западные области и подарим Украине, а давай Крым подарим.
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Если не можешь победить военныи путем, садись за стол переговоров. Воевать за абстрактную справедливость призывают лицемерные активисты, которые сейчас заняли место политиков.
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Someone needs to ask him: "Given your recent comments about Zelensky, do you now believe that Washington should have accepted King George's demands?"
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Someone has to take pity on these Ukrainian soldiers who are being sent to die. Living a cozy life & speaking from high moral ground is easy. Europeans are responsible for Ukrainian deaths - partially because they refuse to fight themselves. And expat Russians -they are pigs
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Please don't give up ....Ukraine is not destroyed enough, there are enough things remaining to be destroyed.
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Mentre nel 2019, come riferito da un funzionario ucraino e nel 2022 come si evince dal trattato di Istanbul la Russia era favorevole a lasciare il Donbass all'Ucraina con cessate i bombardamenti e concessione di una certa autonomia, dopo migliaia di morti ciò non è più fattibile
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Il negoziato secondo Putin.
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Beh son sempre liberi di continuare a combattere e a morire, probabilmente è questo che vuoi, "fino all'ultimo ucraino" come diceva il vostro eroe Lindsey Graham, giusto? Peccato che neanche gli ucraini lo vogliono, visto che mandarli al fronte vengono rapiti per strada..
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Как много чепухи в твоем твите
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Le principe de base de la propagande est de se faire passet pour la victime tout en étant l'agresseur. Un des territoires "volés" est le Donbass, dont la population a voté deux fois sa sortie d'Ukraine et son entrée en Russie. Inacceptable pour qui ?
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Надо принять все условия Ирана!
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Logica infallibile dei pro cremlino. Mi permetto di aggiungere: Se .... non ci sarebbero più reati sessuali contro le donne 🙃
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Якби США прийняли умови Ірану, дизель знову б став по $3 за галлон. Вважаю, що саме так американцям буде зрозуміло.
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J’ai mieux Si les colons américains s’étaient rendus aux anglais, il n’y aurait pas eu toutes ces victimes de la guerre d’indépendance
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Yes you stupid cunt. When dealing with Suoerpowers not giving in usually ends up being much more costly. In this case, Ukraine is wiped out. An empty vassal state tjat lost half its population, cannot pay for basic government functions and has a destroyed infrastructure.
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Your logic. Inversed. — “If Egypt and Israel had refused each other’s terms in 1979, they could have preserved the purity of their positions.” Instead, they signed a peace treaty, Israel withdrew from Sinai, Egypt recognized Israel — and the interstate war between them ended. — “If Jordan had refused to recognize Israel in 1994, it wouldn’t have had to compromise.” Instead, both sides settled borders, water and security issues — and the peace treaty has survived for more than 30 years. — “If Finland had refused Soviet terms in 1944, it could have kept fighting for every inch.” Instead, Finland accepted territorial losses and reparations, preserved its independence and democracy — and avoided becoming another Soviet satellite. — “If Austria had refused neutrality in 1955, it could have insisted on complete strategic freedom.” Instead, Austria accepted permanent neutrality, the occupying powers withdrew, and Austria regained full sovereignty. — “If Egypt had refused to give up its claim to the entire Sinai settlement on its own terms, peace would have been impossible.” Instead, Sadat and Begin compromised at Camp David — and a conflict that had produced repeated major wars stopped producing Egyptian-Israeli wars. — “If South Africa and Namibia’s independence movement had refused a negotiated regional settlement in 1988, everyone could have continued fighting until somebody achieved total victory.” Instead, the accords produced Cuban withdrawal from Angola, South African withdrawal from Namibia and Namibian independence. — “If the Salvadoran government and the FMLN had refused to negotiate with people they considered enemies, the civil war could have continued until justice was perfect.” Instead, the 1992 Chapultepec Accords involved disarmament, political integration and institutional reforms — and ended a 12-year civil war. — “If the Colombian government had refused to negotiate with FARC because terrorists shouldn’t be rewarded, the morally uncomplicated option would have been another few decades of war.” Instead, the 2016 agreement demobilized most of FARC and ended the main government–FARC conflict. — “If Britain and Irish republicans had insisted that negotiating meant surrender, Northern Ireland could have continued settling the constitutional question with bombs and bullets.” Instead, the 1998 Good Friday Agreement required painful compromises from virtually everyone — and dramatically reduced political violence. — “If Indonesia and the Free Aceh Movement had refused to compromise in 2005, each could have maintained that only complete victory was morally acceptable.” Instead, GAM abandoned its demand for independence, Jakarta granted extensive autonomy, rebels disarmed — and a three-decade insurgency largely ended. Turns out the historical record contains another revolutionary idea: peace agreements generally happen precisely because neither side gets everything it wants. Accepting an adversary’s terms — or some negotiated version of them is not proof that the adversary was right. Sometimes it is simply the mechanism by which wars end.
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"Se gli USA accettassero le condizioni dell'Iran avremmo già un accordo"
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