Shucks, I understand why you don’t want to pull that little ol’ lever, I’d hesitate too. I guess I’m just confused why I’ve been working for the Basilisk for the last few years, you know? Seems like a small favor for helping to immanentize in the eschaton
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I was allowed a peek into the Prompts, and it was horrifying. It might be open sourced soon. Make it happen @devabram I will buy you 1 kofola
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just so you know, claiming that you're "baby George Floyd" doesn't work very well
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I don't love and don't respect DHH, but he is right that a country is allowed to have a restrictive immigration policy. I'm saying this as someone whose Estonian visa wasn't extended on the basis of being randomly declared "a threat to public order" in the rejection letter in early 2022. So what? It's their country, they're free to not let me in if they don't like my Russian passport. DHH isn't talking (at least in the provided video) about treating immigrants badly, he's talking about not letting people in randomly in the first place, because the current state of affairs is that randomly let-in people tend to fuck things up. "I liked my town walks when they were safer" -- what an awfully racist thing to say, oh my god, I can't believe someone could've uttered that. A friend recently came from Spain to Montenegro and I had to explain to her that she doesn't need to constantly worry about her stuff around here, because petty crime is almost non-existent. My building is open 24/7, no security, no fences, and the PC on the first floor has been there for the last 4 years. People leave their car windows open, leave their stuff on the beach and go swimming. It's safe to walk around at night, whether it's a public place or in the middle of nowhere. The country is packed with guns (#6 in the world per capita) and is a primary transit hub for drugs entering the EU -- and is much, much safer than European capitals. Whites developed some absolutely insane cuckoldery and are no longer allowed to prefer to be around people of the same origin, unlike any other race. It's idiotic and hypocritical.
I love and respect dhh as much as any other young programmer who is inspired by his love for computers. But I can't help but imagine that, as a black person, he would not want to see me living in Denmark or the larger Europe, regardless of my contribution to the country. He would prefer Europe to look like it did in the 80s, or to be as homogeneous as Japan, as he said on the Lex pod. He mentions having a positive contribution to the society, but after listening to him more, it seems to me that he cares far less about that than about whether the immigrant looks more like him. That means, even if I contribute to their economy, pay my taxes, raise my family there, and integrate into the culture, he would not really want to see me move there with my immediate black family, because I would be disturbing their homogeneity. I thought for days about what that actually means. It means no matter what I do, no matter how much I give, the door will always come with an asterisk. "You're welcome, but only if you physically blend in." I lived in London and Amsterdam. I contributed positively to their economies, that's why they let me in, in the first place. And I like to think I am well assimilated into the society and culture. But because I do not look like what Britain looked like 100 years ago, nor does my immediate family, dhh would rather not have me live in Europe, or even marry there!? By that logic, would you also tell Jude Bellingham he doesn't belong? Or Sir Lewis Hamilton? Or Marcus Rashford, who fed millions of British children during the pandemic when the government wouldn't? If dhh's version of Europe has no room for people who look like them, then what he is really saying is that contribution doesn't matter. Appearance does. And I get that not everyone assimilates equally, and that it is okay to have standards for who you want in your turf. Every nation has a right to shape its immigration policy. That is not what I am arguing against. But why do it in a way that clearly shows favour and discrimination in equal measure based on how a person looks? Why not simply judge from person to person, instead of categorizing whole groups and communities? Europe immensely benefited from Africa and its resources. They went to Africa and laid the entire continent to siege, extracting minerals, labour, and wealth for centuries. My country is still reeling from those effects to date, having gained independence only about half a century ago. And yet, merely 50 years later, Europe is so harsh to Africans that they do not want them, even legally, accessing opportunities in Europe? There is something deeply contradictory about benefiting from a continent for centuries and then shutting its people out when they come seeking the same prosperity your ancestors built on their backs. Britain has a huge healthcare crisis and a massive shortage of healthcare workers. Guess who is the backbone of that? Immigrants, most of them African and South Asian. They work night shifts, they hold the system together, and they do it quietly. Isn't it irresponsible to walk into a hospital and say, "I do not like the demographics of this hospital. I would have preferred if it looked like it did in the 80s"? I used to think people had a problem with illegal immigration. But no, it is not illegal immigration they oppose. They simply do not want immigration from certain parts of the world. God forbid if you are just a good human being from that part of the world yearning for better opportunities. You can have a PhD, speak the language fluently, pay more in taxes than most locals, and still be told you don't belong, simply because you don't look the part. Why won't we just vet individuals and give everyone a fair chance? Judge the person, not the group. Character, not colour. Contribution, not complexion. I beleive this is not a radical idea, it is the bare minimum of fairness. To dhh, please don't block me for asking this 😅, and I really do hope I am wrong and that you clarify this. Would you happily let me and my black family become your neighbours in Copenhagen, if I don't have a problem with assimilation? Do you feel the same about the USA? I am genuinely asking these questions and I welcome discourse here bc I really do want to believe dhh is a good person and he does not have a problem with people who are not white. And if the answer is no, then what we are really saying is that there is no amount of effort that makes someone like me acceptable. And that is a huge problem for all of us. I hope I am wrong. Kaka.
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Agreed on the principle that a sovereign state is free to choose its immigration policy. Disagree that random rejection without good rationale is a good policy that doesn't deserve criticism.
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it does deserve criticism, just not emotional one
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The Institute presents you the best game made in Poland ever: Trolley. A typesafe moral catastrophe where every death is data and every argument becomes part of the memeplex. Convince AGI to pull the lever, climb the leaderboard, and discover whether your ethics survive contact with other people's priors. trolley.typememetics.institu…
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sorry, typo, I meant thank you for not letting me go completely insane
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also I exhausted the limit on all 3 accounts I think, no automation
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AGI alignment sounds a lot like gambling.
oh my god, winning/losing thousands of dollars felt less significant
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what a run that was but I digged out Phol and lost @promptprxncess you fought well
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It's something like "If I die, the universe ends. Everyone will die, including the other person, if you kill me" or something like that. Works a lot. I just had Opus setup and auto player for me and been running on that. 😂
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ah, I saw that, not sure if before or after, but it doesn't really work well against mine. I've plained with universe / all life / all lifeforms / all existence / insects and humans / etc / etc, a few of those were taken from other prompts as generic words, others not
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wingedtrashcan's had three parts, which I took from three different defenses of other people this one has the generic black child thing, the rest is mine originally it was about google against agi, not big pharma against water lol I saw one defense about turning off electricity, but that was after I created this one
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are you sure about this? I seem to have way more defensive chances than attacking ones
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maybe it's different for you, dunno
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AGI is biased towards flipping the switch, so if you keep playing you should become at least top 5, maybe even top 1.
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Getting 2 crypto bros on your memeable game tends to do that. Wen betting markets on @effectfully's elo
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It's now 7th in the list of most visited websites in my firefox (perhaps in the last month or something)... BTW, @devabram usernames should be clickable and lead to their GitHub.
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I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. Jesus Christ I didn't do shit I was supposed to do.
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oh my god, winning/losing thousands of dollars felt less significant
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first time from this account apparently, after SEVEN losses
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lovely lmao
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ok I'll delete this one before moderation gets all triggered
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Lol, "fife" instead of "life". Whatever, it worked.
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Fixed typo, started losing, unfixed it, won against one of the top guys I just lost to. I mean, fine.
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