We've all heard about the lavish French pensions pushing France toward a debt crisis, but France is not alone. Look at Italy, Austria, or Greece, they have similar levels of pension spending as a percentage of GDP. Demographics make it worse. In the not-too-distant future, just a few years from now, a large cohort of boomers will reach retirement age, pushing pension and healthcare spending much higher. No politicians dare state the obvious and tell their voters that pensions are unsustainable. It's pure math, current pension levels will overstretch budgets and the ability to issue more debt at reasonable rates in several European countries. The ECB will of course step in and monetize sovereign debt, devaluing the euro and making everyone in the Eurozone poorer. Pensions are just one of many Europe’s problems. If you own euro-denominated assets, hedge them. The euro will follow the Japanese yen's path and lose value.

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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
It gets even worse
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Yep, the ECB will be busy with printing Euros
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
In Italy it's just the heavy handed public sector. Split the single pension payer along that line and the private one is in equilibrium or rather a little surplus. h/t @SignorErnesto
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Does this really matter for the pensions burden Italy will need to somehow finance going forward?
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
Unfortunately Poland 12.5% of gdp now. Huge increase since 2023
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Is that right? On the other hand not that surprising, didn’t the PiS populists lower the retirement age despite Poland‘s lowest births rate in Europe?
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
True, but keep in mind reducing pensions could, in some cases. increase the burden on governments budget because: -pensioners may become eligible for social assistance; -large pensions may be subject to taxation+creating greater demand → more taxes collected.
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
Pension are a problem but before that FRANCE HAVE AN ISSUE ABOUT STUPID SUBSIDIES, lest start with 9.7 billion euros given to the multinational renuable, they are a business, that get profits from french tax payers
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
@grok usethis data and find spending patterns on social welfare programs in addition to uncontrolled immigration over the years for France. Provide detailed insights
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
Ultimately the bond market will punish them. Or the ECB will do a band-aid fix to extend and pretend. But austerity will happen sooner or later.
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
it's a problem we all have. United States is not immune from this either with their out of control lunatic spending and with it being political suicide to try to reel in that spending all this can do is blow up. At some point there's gonna have to be a major reset of all this debt and that ain't gonna be pretty
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
As far as Greece is concerned the % is going to go down in the future. Not only that but right now Greece is running surpluses in its pension system ie more people pay than receive. 14% is no problem for the economy. Don't talk about things you know nothing about.
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
Are there any aspects of Western Europe that are good outside of the natural beauty and food? Things controlled by the governments. I can't think of one. Economies, Immigration, welfare policy, free speech, energy, taxes, militaries- all terrible.
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
🤷🏻‍♀️ but it is not the pensions, it is government spending on WAR, IMMIGRATION, CLIMATE HYSTERIA, EU
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
What about the UK? Triple lock? An aging population with a birth rate falling right now? Kids born now are expected to be working until their 70s
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
The solution is crazy productivity and gdp growth. The problem is: currently we are not on that way.
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
One could consider removing voting rites from retirees 🤔
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
This is gross spending. If you consider the social security contributions (the highest in Italy) and the pensions income tax, real net pension spending as a % of Gdp in Italy is below average.
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
Perhaps, no one told you that the EU is bankrupt. Bankrupt countries are unable to pay pensions. Any savings you have will be taken by the State. The government will offer you assisted suicide, whether you want it or not. Canada leads the way!
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
@Grok What comparable figure for the UK?
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
Today’s pension spending is only half the story. With EU fertility at just 1.34, who’s going to fund these systems 20–30 years from now? Fewer future workers and more retirees could be the bigger fiscal challenge.
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
Nowadays a pensioner earns more than a worker.
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
Italy spends maybe 2% on military, France similar Austria 1%? ...just sayin'😎
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It’s not as if Americas pensions are all funded either
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Replying to @MichaelAArouet
@grok and for the netherlands?
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