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Replying to @coinbureau
If anyone wants full details of the incident see here: tru.watch/security-incident
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Replying to @Truebitprotocol
Thank you guys.
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We are adding everything we can find in real time.
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@zachxbt - Take a look if you get some time please.
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Attention all Truebit holders. Do not interact with the contract until @Truebitprotocol provide further information. What we know so far: malicious actors have exploited the OS reserve/mint functions and drained 8000+ Ethereum from the reserve. My friend Marcus has added a security incident page to his Tru Watch site: tru.watch/security-incident Here you can track the flow of the funds and monitor the attacker's wallets. Currently, the 8000+ Eth stolen is sitting in two wallets. Please see the page. I hope you are all okay, this is the worst start to a year I have ever experienced. DM me if I can do anything for you.
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Attention all Truebit holders. Do not interact with the contract until @Truebitprotocol provide further information. What we know so far: malicious actors have exploited the OS reserve/mint functions and drained 8000+ Ethereum from the reserve. My friend Marcus has added a security incident page to his Tru Watch site: tru.watch/security-incident Here you can track the flow of the funds and monitor the attacker's wallets. Currently, the 8000+ Eth stolen is sitting in two wallets. Please see the page. I hope you are all okay, this is the worst start to a year I have ever experienced. DM me if I can do anything for you.
Today, we became aware of a security incident involving one or more malicious actors. The affected smart contract is 0x764C64b2A09b09Acb100B80d8c505Aa6a0302EF2 and we strongly advise the public not to interact with this contract until further notice. We are in contact with law enforcement and taking all available measures to address the situation. We will share updates through our official channels as they become available.
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Yea we need consumer apps without question, however, what I'm getting at is that none of it can scale and grow without a layer for the verified compute, which to me seems like a industry-wide blind spot that hardly anyone is talking about. There's so much hype around tokenising everything but how can retail investors hold a yield-bearing RWA based on "trust this black box" approach from the issuer? I've got a lot to say on this, as per my page, or you can DM me and I will give you my TG handle, very happy to share ideas with you. For some light reading start with these please fren: truebit.io/beyond-trust-us-v… truebit.io/genius-act-real-t… truebit.io/why-compliance-is…
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And verification will underpin it all!
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Replying to @TrueCryptoPower
Happy Anniversary fren. May it continue.
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If a token has forceTransfer(), then yes: an AMM that custodies it is unsafe. Doesn't mean that permissionless DeFi is impossible though, there needs to be some sort of compliance boundary e.g. the AMM trade claims and vaultr shares, while the underlying asset stays in a registry or vault with rules. The DeFi stays permissionless but the asset edge stays permissioned. This is a good start - truebit.io/verified-defi/
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Have they got any literature on how they plan to perform verified compliance that's auditable and not black-boxed?
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This is exactly why the rails debate is missing the point. Even in private workflows, the question becomes "can counterparties/auditors/regulators verify what rules ran and what data drove the outcome without trusting a single operator?" That’s the gap RWAs keep tripping over, i.e., provable policy and provable computation. What’s Canton’s story for auditability of calculations (NAV, eligibility, limits) beyond “attestations”?
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If RWAs are just “tokenised stocks you can lever on,” then yea the CEXs will nail it. Where it gets bigger is using RWAs to rebuild the "plumbing" so think real-time verified reserves for stables, provable bank/compliance workflows (GENIUS-style) and also tax / reporting computed off-chain but proven back on-chain. It all needs to be verified though ;)
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Replying to @andyyy
The biggest narrative will be verified compute and verified compliance, but many still do not see this essential component. It ties into all other narratives such as RWAs, AI Agents, and DeFi.
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Replying to @Truebitprotocol
Still not seeing enough RWA talking heads mention this. Painfully behind the curve they are.
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Replying to @Grayscale
“Secure data flows” are necessary, but they’re not the whole middleware story. For RWAs and credit you don’t just need to move data on-chain, you need to prove the off-chain compute that transforms it (risk models, eligibility tests, tax, etc.). That’s where dynamic, verifiable compute oracles (arbitrary code and API calls with proofs) become as important as price feeds. I know you have your GLINK Fund to promote, but it wouldn't hurt to be a little more technically sophisticated.
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Not sure about the others, but glad you referred to Truebit as a genuine utility token. See here -
Alright frens, I didn't want to go down this road, but here’s the REKT PLEB GUIDE to TRU Utility – The Verify Edition This is for people who only care about 'number go up' and are allergic to documentation, and to those that keep tagging me with "token not needed" messages. 1) “Is the token actually used, or is it just a relic from the original design?” This is from the FAQ: “The primary purpose of the TRU token is to secure the operation of the Truebit Node Network. Before Nodes can join the Truebit Verify network, they must lock up (stake) TRU tokens as collateral.” This is in the node operator part of the dev docs: "Running a Truebit node requires 2,000 TRU tokens to be staked. This stake is essential for the slashing and reward mechanism that ensures honest participation...” This is from the Terms of Use on the official website: “The TRU Token is intended solely to facilitate certain functionality within the Services or the Protocol...” This means that in the new platform: No TRU means no node, and no node means no share of the verification pie. TRU is therefore the collateral that keeps the network honest. That is the OPPOSITE of "token not needed." 2) “Isn’t this just fiat SaaS with a pet rock token?” Yes and No. The documentation is explicit when it comes to the split. This is also from the FAQ page: “Nodes will receive rewards for their work in stablecoin.” As I said in my GA post, the yield is in stables, which is predictable and normie-friendly. However, the risk and access is in TRU, you have to put TRU down to play the game. That's deliberate, as people and enterprises running nodes want predicatble bills in fiat, not a potentially volatile token. However, the "levered bet" on the network demand is moved to the TRU holders and node operators via the staking. More from the FAQ: “Task Payment Option (coming soon): In the near future, it will be possible to use TRU tokens to pay for Truebit Developer and Custom subscriptions." The Terms of Use repeat this: “We may…….accept TRU Tokens as payment for subscriptions and other Platform fees.” This means TRU is mandatory for security and node staking, and optional but REAL for paying for access (fees). Anyone saying this is pure fiat SaaS alongside a defunct token needs to re-read their docs. 3. “Why is supply so high, wen burn and wen low float?” This is from the original Truebit OS article (which Verify links to): “TRU tokens are created and destroyed over time according to cumulative demand. Users can purchase or retire TRU tokens in exchange for ETH. Each Truebit task also burns TRU tokens.” and also this: “Each purchase transaction deposits some ETH into a reserve escrow.....some ETH is withdrawn from the reserve through each retire transaction.” This basically means that mints (via the OS purchase contract) require paying ETH into a reserve, the retires send TRU back and pull ETH out, meaning the TRU is gone from circulation. Tasks themselves also burn TRU as part of their fee logic. Over the years, thanks to the diligence of some community members such as @GrimeChain we have clarified that retiring tokens does not lower or raise mint or retire, but minting tokens increases both mint and retire. So the updated reality is that retiring doesn’t move the OS price band, it just deletes tokens. Minting is expensive (you pay ETH at OS mint price), so with TRU being cheap on Uniswap, nobody sane is going to want to mint when they can just buy existing TRU. The supply is elastic downward via the OS retire (arb) and the task burns. Don't forget, the current high supply of approximately 164M tokens is a historical scar from the April-May 2021 mint mania, but the system design will always make new mints expensive, and lets anyone who cares about price burn the float for profit when the Uniswap price is < retire price. For a speculator, that’s structurally better than a fixed, forever-inflating emissions schedule (like a lot of the vapourware tokens you all seem to love). Also, someone asked in the Telegram group if maybe Truebit themselves were involved in the burning in order to reduce the float that should never have existed. Maybe, maybe not, but you don’t need conspiracies to explain it, this system is cleverly and explicitly designed so that speculative mispricing gets corrected by burning away surplus TRU while paying arbitrageurs in ETH. 4) “Come on TruebitGod, the token is not needed" Let’s unpack the official statements: Utility-only by design “TRU Token is intended solely to facilitate certain functionality within the Services or the Protocol and does not.....confer any ownership interest, right to profits, equity, or governance....” Translation: this isn’t an equity cosplay, it’s meant to be a tool inside the system, think back to the OS docs, "created and destroyed over time according to cumulative demand." Security-critical asset I'll just re-paste this quote - “Running a Truebit node requires 2,000 TRU tokens to be staked. This stake is essential for the slashing and reward mechanism” Payment and rewards rail “Node Operators may be paid in TRU Tokens at our discretion” and “We may....accept TRU Tokens as payment for subscriptions and other Platform fees.” If TRU were truly “not needed,” you’d expect no mandatory stake, no explicit TRU payment option, and no language about facilitating functionality inside the Protocol. Instead, they do the opposite by baking TRU into the staking, rewards, and the (soon-to-be) task payments, while keeping enterprise billing fiat-friendly. 5) “Okay ser, but token is secondary to fiat SaaS” Again, the FAQ spells out the split: “The primary purpose of the TRU token is to secure the operation of the Truebit Node Network...Nodes will receive rewards for their work in stablecoin.” Think of it like this: a] Fiat/stables = cashflow layer for enterprises and node operators. b] TRU = risk + security + access layer. c] Nodes are basically delta-neutral yield farms where you earn stables, but you must hold 2,000 TRU at risk (slashing and price fluctuations). d] As the demand for verification grows, more nodes are needed (or higher stake per node) and that will mean more TRU gets locked just to keep the machine running. And if they lean into the whole task payment option it means that devs/customers who want to pay in TRU add direct demand on top of that. So yes, fiat is front-and-centre. But that doesn’t make TRU irrelevant, it makes it the leveraged back-end instrument whose job is to: a] Secure the network. b] Gate participation. c] Potentially soak up some of the value flow (if any TRU payments are burned/retired/treasured instead of instantly market sold). 6) “What if they just turn TRU off?” The Protocol section of the Terms is brutally honest, they may “cease issuing TRU Tokens, change the software which issues and controls them, or disable them at any time.” And they tell us that we bear “all risk of loss associated with acquiring, holding, and/or using the TRU Token.” That's a legal part they have to include. I believe the full sheet will be lifted once the Market Structure/Clarity Act is done and dusted early in 2026. The important nuance is that they still chose to: a] Keep the OS mint/retire docs live and linked via the new GA docs. b] Require 2,000 TRU for node staking. c] Advertise TRU task payments as “coming soon." d] Explicitly mention TRU in relation to node rewards and platform fees. If the plan was “TRU is dead in this new system, we’re pure SaaS now, sorry,” then the clean legal move would be no new TRU docs, no staking requirement, and definitely no “pay with TRU” teaser on the website. Instead, they’re doing the opposite while telling you in the ToS that they can change this later if regulators or reality force them to. So yes, the risk is real but the current architecture choices are pointing toward using TRU, not burying it. 7) "Okay TruebitGod, but wen numba go up? I DESPISE even indirectly talking about price, but for a pure price, no-morals pleb, the big levers from the docs are: Elastic supply with real burns a] “TRU tokens are created and destroyed over time according to cumulative demand.” b] Users can “purchase or retire TRU tokens in exchange for ETH.” c] “Each Truebit task also burns TRU tokens.” So structurally it's the bloated supply from the 2021 mint mania now coming up against no new mints + retires + burns, basically the supply is shrinking as usage and arbitrage both do their thing. The Staking a] Each node needs 2,000 TRU staked. b] That stake is tied to a “slashing and reward mechanism that ensures honest participation.” c] More adoption is going to mean more nodes and more capacity, which will mean more TRU will end up being locked. If TRU is cheap then the cost of an attack is going to be low. So long-term, security pressure itself argues for either: a] Higher TRU price. or b] Higher stake per node. Either way, security means implicit buy pressure. TRU as an optional fee asset The best case for the price is some portion of those TRU fees are burned, retired, or held, not market-sold. Even if they just pass them to node operators it will be okay because node ops already need stake, so TRU rewards and TRU staking can form a closed loop of demand among people who actually run the network. Final thought Please stop commenting on posts about TRU and price, it's embarrassing. Let's not be like the rest of the cryptosphere, this is a unique protocol with incredibly well designed mechanics. It's all quite groundbreaking in my humble opinion. The point is unlike most casino chips in this market, TRU has a credible path to being priced by work and risk, not just by tweets and hope, and the company’s own docs, not community copium, are what put it there. #AI #VerifiableComputation #Truebit #ProgrammableTrust #OnChainTrust #TrustlessProofs #Web3Infra #ERC3643 #RWAs #JustVerifyIt #TruebitVerify #TRU #AgeOfVerification #VerificationLayer
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Yes! See my post on the Truebit GA launch here -
Whilst crypto natives panic over prices, tariffs, and macro volatility, the legendary and crypto-foundational @truebitprotocol quietly releases general availability of the Truebit Verify platform, ushering in The Age of Verification and cementing the foundations of a real verification layer for decentralised compute, off-chain workflows, and web3 in general. They have finally moved from beta docs to a productised platform, with RWA, compliance, and AI verticals. This is very exciting, and wonderful to see after 4.5 years of waiting (if you count from the OS deployment), or 8 years of waiting (if you count from the publication of the first paper by @JasonTeutsch and Reitwießner people.cs.uchicago.edu/~teut…). Some observations (apologies for the long post). 1. The positioning is clearly enterprise-ready. It appears to be a SaaS-first go-to-market approach, with crypto rails half-implemented (the node side is done, the task side is not). Many of you are upset with the monthly subscription fiat pricing, but this is an absolute necessity on launch because low-friction onboarding is needed, especially given the fact that immediate verification customers are going to be enterprises ("crypto bros" don't need verification right now, they need therapy, a box of tissues, and a 9-5 job), it goes without saying that trying to onboard enterprise customers through crypto rails is counterintuitive. It's akin to asking institutional ETH ETF investors to install Metamask and get their ETH exposure from Uniswap. 2. I'm very happy to see unit definitions, so one certified transcript is one task execution. This makes transcripts a clear and billable metric, a task under the Developer plan costs you approximately $0.026 ($29 divided by 1100). This is dirt cheap if you need audit-grade proofs and even better for accelerating adoption. There's maybe a potential reseller business idea in there (you heard it from TBG first). 3. The lower and middle tiers provide insufficient transcript storage for enterprises that have large audit windows and large data retention policies. I expect proper businesses to opt for a custom plan. Also, the lower and middle tiers only give you five verifiers, you absolutely need more than this for the big stuff. The more verifiers working for you and competing for a slice of the pie the, more robust your results. 4. The verification game, which has inspired so many protocols since its inception, is more explicit now, and is named as being done by the Truebit Control Node. Disputes land here, and are adjudicated here. 5. "Under the hood, Truebit leverages blockchain-based ledgers to secure execution, ensure full transparency, and manage system-level financial mechanics." - This is the phrasing that many were waiting for, this confirms the economic layer we all knew was coming. 6. Regarding transcripts, we can see which nodes participated and which ones got paid, and if applicable, which ones were penalised (after adjudication). Node leader board anyone? Would be fun. @ShaneOnChain something to think about and build. 7. We now have some information, albeit just a little, on the AI audit trail. Given the rise of AI Agents, this will likely be THE major driver for verification, especially if companies in regulated industries deploy agents. 8. We now have clear definitions of the major stakeholders. You've got the task developers (currently guys at Forte, see here - x.com/TrueCryptoPower/status…), the task requesters (the enterprise customers seeking certified transcripts), and the node operators (who put up collateral to win the jobs that verify the work). 9. The node payout rail is in USD stables, a clean path to revenue for node operators. Paying nodes in USD stables is a sober design choice because infra providers pay bills in fiat, not tokens (not to mention the sell pressure from them having to repeatedly sell their TRU). Increasing demands for verification means more parallel nodes competing for work as dispatched by the Verify Hub. The way the network adds capacity is for more TRU to be acquired and locked. Price pressure therefore has to migrate to TRU as verification work increases with demand. There's also the institutional fit, naturally some enterprises may want to dabble in the node operators lane, and payment in stables (post GENUIS Act) is a genuine and legit revenue pathway. 10. Running a node now has a cash incentive. USD is easier to forecast and easier to fund your current and future infra with. Professional infra providers want this. Also, at $0.14 per TRU, the cost to run a node is approximately $280, a small price to pay for an early slice of the verification pie. This invites competition, fast capacity growth, and network effect. 11. Cheaters are slashed, good participants are rewarded. Classic incentive for good behaviour and honest work. A predicted flywheel 1. Demand shock as verification needs grow. Watch Larry Fink predict the tokenisation of all assets here - x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/19… 2. More nodes needed, thus more TRU needed for security and staking. 3. Nodes earn stables, the operators pay their OpEx, withdraw some profits, and then recycle the rest into more TRU for node expansion (after all, once you get a taste of the rewards, you'll want more and more). Node operators begin to seek OTC and secondary market deals, their last resort is calling the buyTRU(uint256 X) function. We all know what that does. 4. At some point (as per the official FAQ), they begin allowing the lower and middle tier plans to use TRU for payment, meaning transcripts/tasks are crypto railed and denominated in TRU, augmenting the game theory and driving the utility of TRU: A] Task requesters mint TRU from the OS, or acquire through secondary markets if price < mint price (dependent on liquidity and availability). B] Their tasks receive some kind of priority QoS or faster orchestration from the Verify Hub or perhaps discount on tasks, I'd love to see a 'TRU-pay' toggle. This fires up the game theory dynamics, and will indirectly impact the staking price collateral for nodes. It also means professional enterprises who only deal with fiat can continue to subscribe in the conventional USD way as per the pricing page. C] Leftover minted TRU can be used for more tasks down the line, can be retired to the OS (at a loss as per the spread between the retire and mint price), or they can be sold on the secondary markets if the price is higher than retire. D] Possibility of OTC acquisition, given that there is still a lot of free-floating TRU circulating as a result of the May 2021 events. OTC can be directly with Truebit (I imagine they minted and/or acquired their fair share), or with other holders. There's a potential OTC/P2P marketplace idea in it for you TRU-holding entrepreneurs out there in the ether (think TAO early days, before exchanges, ping me if you want to explore this further). 5. Suddenly, an entire verification marketplace is teeming with buy, sell, retire, mint, and stake. 6. Bots wait in the shadows, arbitraging price gaps, policing the curve and helping the fair value discover itself. Those of you who are here for speculative purposes only will have to deal with the fact that for now, near-term "price action" is the result of node demand, which will be the result of increased verification needs, and this will not be an overnight event. Sorry if this disappoints you. CT doesn’t need a new 'casino' right now, what's needed is a 'factory' for verifiable workflows. A few outstanding questions from my list to @Truebitprotocol 1. Is there any kind of legal exposure for node operators? If my node verifies compliance steps for tokenised securities, do I carry any obligations related to data handling and/or audit trails? 2. Slashing slashing slashing, this is a big one! Clarity on the slash amount, clarity on where the slashed TRU goes, does it get retired/burned? Does it go to the treasury, is it distributed to other nodes, or is there a split between all three? 3. Is there scope for the staking amount to grow with network usage and scale? If so, will the early nodes at 2000 collateral get to keep their early bird/early adopter low collateral option? #AI #VerifiableComputation #Truebit #ProgrammableTrust #OnChainTrust #TrustlessProofs #Web3Infra #ERC3643 #RWAs #JustVerifyIt #TruebitVerify #TRU #AgeOfVerification #VerificationLayer
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