TIL: New York bagels are the way they are because of a culinary mafia. For much of the 20th century, bagels in NYC were controlled by Bagel Bakers Local 338, a union of Jewish bakers who enforced wages and very specific standards around how bagels were made. The bagelmakers did a great job negotiating... for every date I looked up, the standard salaries for bagelmakers were $75–$100k in todays dollars- far more than teachers or police made at the time. They also controlled what a bagel was. To be called Bagels (or Beigels) they had to be made of high-gluten flour, water, salt, yeast, and malt- with no sugar or dairy. Bagels had to be hand-rolled, boiled, and baked on stone, and they maintained uniformity across bakeries by random taste tests. There were 6 flavors: Plain, Poppy, Sesame, Salt, Onion, Garlic. They defended their power like a mafia: they routinely went on strike, and crushed every non-union bagel shop that popped up, by picketing, offering free bagels in front of non-union shops, and by telling all their suppliers that if they supplied to the non-union shop they'd lose the union business, which no supplier could afford to do. In 1964, they standardized the spelling from beigel, baigel, beygel, or beygl to "Bagel" The cartel ruled the bagel industry in New York for ~70 years, until a California-based company came in with a technology that made it a lot cheaper (the Uber of its time? Lots of similarities to taxi medallions!). Daniel Thompson, an inventor in LA created a machine that could make bagels way faster and 4x cheaper. The machine-made bagels didn't taste as good, but they were a lot cheaper and had a longer shelf-life. By the late ’70s, the Local 338 union had collapsed. Mass-market bagels had won. The bagel machine was part of a broader postwar trend, and was late to it: food became cheaper, softer, and mass-produced... bagels went from chewy and handmade to frozen and uniform. It fit the era’s obsession with convenience. Making them cheaper also made them popular... they went from a niche Jewish delicacy to a popular breakfast item for many. Many of us grew up with Lender's frozen bagels... Lender's was the largest buyer of the Thompson bagel machine. In New York, handmade bagels mostly disappeared from the 70s to the 90s. But now, after decades of industrial food, we crave the opposite, and handmade bagels have made a comeback in New York. Today’s best bagels look a lot like the ones from a century ago: hand-rolled, boiled, blistered, and slightly uneven. All of our favorite spots (Brooklyn bagel, Apollo, Popup) make their bagels by hand. Your average deli bagel though? It's made in a machine, steamed not boiled, and done on a rotating rack oven. It looks like a bagel but does not have the chew or crust of a real handmade bagel. The average deli bagel, even in New York, is absolute crap!

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As much as I love NYC bagels, still think Montreal bagels are tops. Better flavor and texture.
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agree! i can eat so many of those
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Did you learn this from @bagelambassador ??
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No- hadn’t heard of him, will follow!
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Amazing history and lore!
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Such a fun background, lots I didn’t get to cover either like how bagels were almost all made in the lower east side; Russ & Daughters is the only remaining shop from that time.
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Pretty much every specialty bagel shop in NYC hand-rolls their bagels though, no? Anything that ever even comes up in the conversation for “where are your favorite bagels”
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Yup- it’s the random delis that have shit bagels but all the good spots are hand rolled
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Do you have some handmade bagel recs in New York?
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yeah - try Brooklyn Bagels, Apollo Bagels, Tompkins st, pop up bagels
New York Bagel Review #1: Apollo Bagels... one of the buzziest spots in town
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Replying to optimize my X algo for more bagel content and less tech bro commentary on tariffs
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Calling in @antoniogm. Twitter’s official bagel commenter
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I was just saying yesterday that bagels are one of the best inventions ever.
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Love the interesting insights & history this account always gives
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this is great. I didn't know any of this.
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In north NJ, there’s a place called “The Bagel House” which has made the most delicious, chewy, bagels for the last 10 years. I can’t eat machine bagels anymore because of it! They make them all on-site and you can get steaming hot, fresh ones at 5:30 AM.
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Excellent product
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Love it, great share
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I think this is the most interesting thing I’ve ever read on X. Thanks sheel! @grok was there a similar dynamic in Montreal Jewish community that produced rigorous adherence to quality standards? Or any other interesting historical tidbits of the development of bagels in Canada?
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Oh snap! this is cool
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Handmade bagels did not disappear from ny Source: I ate a lot of them in the 90s
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Fascinating how tradition and power shaped NYC bagels for decades
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great grandpa in the bagel mafia? 👀@gefensk
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Are you saying it's time for AI for bagels?
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everything in ny is the way it is because of some kind of mafia
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Outstanding reporting
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@jamalichaidani
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Makes Kramer’s bagel ship strike make sense
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I had no clue, thanks for posting!
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NY Pizza has a similar story! The story goes that Al Capone (!) had a dairy farm in Wisconsin and forced all NYC pizza shops that sold by the slice to use his cheese. That's why they standardized with the same ultra-melty, blistery cheese instead of more traditional mozzarella
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Random fact of the day! Love this content. Sad to see how humanity seems to always choose convenience over quality.
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My main takeaway is that humans prefer higher gluten content for some reason.
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