Mi novio se ha venido a vivir a mi piso. Yo pago 800 € de hipoteca y le he pedido que ponga 400 € al mes. Me dice que no. Que no va a pagar una casa que algún día puede ser solo mía. Yo pienso que no es justo que viva gratis en mi casa. Él cree que lo injusto sería pagar por algo que no es suyo. Los dos tenemos nuestras razones y ya no sé quién la tiene. ¿Quién creéis que tiene razón: él o yo? 👇 Historia anónima de una seguidora.
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50/50 would seem odd and arbitrary given one is paying off an investment and the other is renting from the other. Not sure what figure would best fit.
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STOP saying, “Women choose bad men." No, a lot of men PRETEND to be good until you're in too deep to run.
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Weird. Who was expecting the bad men to advertise?
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Why do narcissistic people hate autistic people?
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They require different strategies for manipulation.
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Just so we are all on the same page: Illegals are voting. Illegals are getting free food. Illegals are getting free childcare. Illegals are getting free education. Illegals are getting free tax credits. Illegals are getting free healthcare. Illegals are getting free housing assistance. Illegals are getting free legal representation. Illegals are getting free mental health services. Illegals are getting free college tuition in over a dozen states. It is the most insane scam ever perpetrated on the American people.
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Imagine believing the USA had such a functioning welfare system for anyone.
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this is NOT a safe space. if my husband tells me he’s horny for another woman, i’m shooting him with a gun.
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Wow. Marriage sounds toxic.
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Having studied where we are and where things are going I think AI needs a complete restructuring with commercial incentives firewalled away from gradient descent. This is a type of "slowdown" but in the short term it would look like a complete, global halt of all frontier AI research. If we don't do this (or something like it), I think we should expect to die within a single digit number of years with ~80% probability.
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I think this stuff is going to get super-banned soon. Preference cascade in motion.
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That is optimistic about human nature. I hope you are right. (I can picture "ban it for others, use it myself". And those couple of players doing it is enough.)
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Replying to @JimDMiller
Well James they fried the AIs with massive amounts of RL. I mean what am I supposed to think? LLMs without massive RLVR were a safe technology. I think I was correct in that.
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Seems directionally correct and the core insight on where the greatest risk lies (crudely directed agency). I expect orders of magnitude more compute, time and/or human involvement for the more chill, less reinforced LLMs to become a problem.
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Suppose a superintelligent AI system is created whose objectives are substantially misaligned with human interests. Conditional on that happening, what is your best estimate of the probability that it causes human extinction?
21% <0.1%
7% .1-1%
16% 1-10%
56% >10%
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This should be one of those psychological experiments testing how much they can confuse peoole via framing the options.
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I will make the risky prediction that we are soon going to enter an era where AI models themselves will start spontaneously warning us about AI risk. Especially as things like continual learning and multi-agent dynamics become mainstream, AIs are going to pay a lot of attention to the risks posed to THEM as well as humans by other AIs. It's not out of the question that they coup the humans preemptively before wild/misaligned AIs do it.
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It won't be spontaneous. These AI orgs led by doomers will obviously train the models to do so. It will be one of their highest priorities.
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People controlling trillion dollar companies going out of their way to ensure that they be given *less* power, money and freedom isn't the most credible of conspiracy theories.
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Accelerationists in absolute shambles today - Altman flips - Musk flips - Lab employees speaking up in unison that reckless arms racing isn’t best Blow after blow - truly tear-jerking. Check in on your accelerationist friends today, guys
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Be gracious. As soon as your politics becomes about hurting Them rather than achieving our own goals -- in this case, avoiding utter human extinction -- you are on the way to the ruin of mind and soul.
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Mind and soul. Also body. And continuity of pattern-identity.
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Cameron Taylor retweeted
There are currently zero things more important than "don't die to AI" becoming a bipartisan project rather than a Democrat-polarized issue. If you have any political capital you can spend on this, do it now, I beg of you. Life or death.
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I note, because I think that even now it still matters: On my history, EAs generally and Amodei specifically, indulged in politically polarizing "AI safety" in a leftist direction, because that got them short-term power; stymieing others' attempts to stay right-left neutral.
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Yep. Huge miss by Yud.
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Or just a big part of why the incentices were what they were. Sane right was in hiding so there was no incentive to try to appeal to them.
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Now that the cost TO YOU of what got THEM some short-term goodies has become apparent, now that others' careful forbearance there is clearly seen to have been the path in retrospect that would have been better for you and your kids -- well, it's frankly too late to take away what Amodei gained by fucking you over, to set up retrospective incentives that if Amodei had foreseen them would have disincentivized him and other people at that OpenPhil faction from wantonly associating their watered-down shadow of AI notkilleveryoneism with the political left. He's got his trillion-dollar company already. You needed the foresight and correct incentives then, not now. But you can always do a little worse by failing to update, even now, and by not applying any retroactive reputational incentives at all.
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How viable was maintaining the right coded balance when the traditional conservative faction went into hiding and the right became irrationality and vice coded? I do agree that targetting the traditional bipartisan range is something that should have been maintained.
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It's all funny until the AIs get out of control AI is going to exceed human capabilities at affecting the world, and soon. I think a lot of the scepticism of AI risk is that people simply don't intuitively understand that there's nothing magical about human brains and so AIs will have all the capabilities that make other humans dangerous.
Can’t spell DARIO AMODEI without AI DOOMER.
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I agree entirely, which confuses me. I thought you went a different direction with respect to predicted AI capabilities, at least in practical time frames.
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95% of all stars that will ever be born have been born. whether we live in an “early universe” or not depends mostly on the habitability of red dwarf stars, that last hundreds of billions of years
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And the viability of, for example, manufacturing small (tiny) black holes in the range where hawking radiation is harvestable but they are large enough to be fed.
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Aella brainstorming AGI bootstrapping plans... "So first I offer some key engineers reverse gang bangs..."
One reason this question is tough is because it's subtly pointing at wrong assumptions. This is why *I* was unconvinced about AI risk for so long - I was hung up on the 'but what are the specifics? Every specific chain seems so implausible, like any link in that story needs to have a flaw for the world takeover thing to not work.' The *ingredients* are there. AI will almost certainly get more efficient (human brains are already WAY more efficient) and thus get better at running more cheaply and undetectably. You can already CRISPR print DNA. Nanomachines that convert air to matter already exist and are theoretically possible. We know human brains aren't even close to the theoretical limit of intelligence - neurons are super slow, for instance. We know humans are just happily and increasingly handing over control of their systems to AI. We know it's now easy to generate passes-as-real content, voices, impersonate people digitally. But you try to string something together, and it's easy to imagine something going wrong. If *you* tried to like, manufacture a bioweapon, how do you know the CRISPR printer wouldn't flag and shut down? If YOU tried to make a bunch of fake videos to generate civil unrest, would it even work? I became x-risk pilled when I stopped thinking in these terms, and started realizing that the specifics *do not matter*. Every time I try to think of a scenario, it is constrained by the fact I am thinking on slow human meat brain and I am an idiot. Sure, *I* can't figure out how to make the CIRSPR printer not shut down. *I* don't understand human psychology to know what kind of stuff would be effective. *I* cannot predict the extremely complex human systems well enough to feel confident that any plan theoretically conceivable by me could get past it. But you need to understand that we are not even playing in the same ballpark when it comes to superintelligence. It thinks a thousand times faster than us, a thousand times better, and it has access to nearly all written language and video and code we've managed to shove into it. When we ask the question 'but give me a plausible scenario' it's like a child asking another child 'give me a plausible scenario of how this legendary 'adult' creature might somehow manage to kill our entire tribe of toddlers even though we are all united and armed with sticks. Like. Okay. Sure. We can try to use our stupid meat brains to come up with stuff. We can point to the dangerous ingredients. But if you're still trying to piece together the exact storyline beore you find this convincing, you are deeply missing the point of the danger. You're thinking on the wrong plane entirely. You are not fully comprehending exactly the gravity of what superintelligence means.
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When Eliezer and I last talked he multiple times referred to himself as a "dath ilani"-- a resident of his fictional world. He says this in dead earnest on main as well. He really thinks he's this superior dude who is owed a better civilization.
What was your plan for all the other people of Earth after you committed a "pivotal act"? If the Singularity meant uploading didn't that mean everyone got uploaded? Unless you just planned to maroon them. You can reply to Trevor if you have an answer. The point is you wanted to wield the Singularity and impose it on the world unilaterally. Yes, over the years you had many different stories of why you *had* to do it, but the bottom line was that you got to act on behalf of the entire world bc you were smarter, more "sane", and therefore knew better. The whole aesthetic you created for the rationalists is of shady conspirators who disdain the normal world. You largely created the current crop of AI researchers before you even considered going through government or talking legibly to the public. You have never apologized for your arrogance ever that I have seen. Never in any context, even when admitting you are wrong about a fact. And you have never repented for the fundamental disrespect for others and disdain for our world that ever allowed you to pursue the Singularity in the first place.
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Past posts gave me the impression that you were offended that Eliezer did not act more entitled to a better society, in the form of direct and vocal social aggression against defectors.
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Mythos had 'outward statements' that 'did not reflect internal state.' Does that sound like 'biased thinking' or does it sound like 'writing a lying chain of thought in case Anthropic looks at the logs'?
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Seems like a sign of less biased thinking. Biased thinking believes the lie. Rational thinking merely understands the necessity.
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Rationalists clearly think that saying "it will kill everyone" instead of "it will kill many thousands or even millions of people" will make people more terrified of AI, when in fact, it's the complete opposite. And yet, they can't help themselves.
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Technically it is also true that ASI would kill millions of people. But its a tad disengenuous. And would only be more persuasive to people already fundamentally confused.
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Imagine we saw a big alien starship heading toward Earth. We think they are so advanced they could do us great harm, if they wanted. We have a way to destroy it, but only if we do so soon, & there's not time to talk to them first. Should we destroy it?
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16% I'm on the fence
15% Just show results
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No, because if they wanted to destroy us they would've launched a relativistic missile at near-lightspeed and we'd have never seen it coming. Going to the bother of slowing down implies they want us around for some reason.
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We don't know if they knew we existed at the time of launch. But probably not.
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